trash pullout opener- 'hip bump' vs foot pedal
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trash pullout foot pedel- I'm going nuts!
Comments (9)Okay, it's not what you asked, but this is how I see it: There are three ways I know of to open a drawer mechanism (something that slides on glide rails): A direct pull, a lever, or a spring. Direct pull: The only thing I can think of is a bar on the bottom that one could pull with an agile foot. Not lovely. Bad idea. Next... Lever: This is what the foot pedal on the freestanding, flip top can has. Press the pedal which moves the lever which pulls the rod that the top is attached to and flips it up. On a cabinet pull out one could put a pedal on a lever but it would have to push the drawer assembly. That's hard. it would take a big lever or a mighty kick. Bad idea. Next... That leaves us with springs and tension: I've read a description here of the Hafele that said that it operates using a bungee type system (the bungees being the springs). That is, press the pedal to release the latch which is holding tension on the bungees. The bungees are released and spring to their point of least tension, which is open. Works well. Good idea. I also read hear about a pressure latch on a trash pull out, where one could bump the door with one's hip and the latch would release. Same principle as above, though it could be done with or without the bungees. Without bungees or similar the only spring is in the pressure latch. That's likely fairly small and just gives it a little push, though I haven't seen it and don't know for sure. If so, it would only open an inch or two and require one to open it the rest of the way oneself. Either way, good idea. If the Hafele latch doesn't fit on your rails or whatever, you could probably get a good tinkerer to adapt it, or get someone to copy the idea....See Morefoot-pedal for trash or push-button trash?
Comments (12)There are some pictures and instructions from MeToo2 in the Home Galleries. Here are the links to those pictures: From the "Pull Out Trash" thread started by ColdTropics on Fri, Jul 20, 07 at 2:43 Posted by metoo2 (My Page) on Wed, Aug 15, 07 at 19:27 Front View when cabinet is shut: http://photos.gardenweb.com/home/galleries/2007/08/pull_out_trash_foot_pedal_fron.html?cat=kitchens View of foot pedal when cabinet is open. Keep in mind this view will be hidden when trash cans are in the cabinet: http://photos.gardenweb.com/home/galleries/2007/08/pull_out_trash_foot_pedal_door.html?cat=kitchens Metal plate mounted on bottom back of door. This is the plate that is 3.5" tall--to deal with a face framed cabinet: http://photos.gardenweb.com/home/galleries/2007/08/pull_out_trash_foot_pedal_meta.html?cat=kitchens Finally, looking at the bottom of the cabinet. Glued a scrap of wood to the back of the face frame. http://photos.gardenweb.com/home/galleries/2007/08/pull_out_trash_foot_pedal_unde.html?cat=kitchens Posted by metoo2 (My Page) on Wed, Aug 15, 07 at 20:01 muscat: The rails are always attached to the door-regardless of whether your trash cans hang from a rail, or your trash cans sit on a base. In your picture, the cans sit on a base. I believe that my modifications will also work with your situation (cans sitting on a base). However, you will need to make one minor modification that I did not do. That modification has to do with the elastic cords that come with the pedal. Elastic cords (ie, bungee cords) pull the door open when the pedal is kicked. You would have to alter where the front of the cords are mounted inside the cabinet. Very easy to do. Earlier posts on this thread refer to a version of the Hele pedal for trash cans which sit on a base. I have not seen this product. I suspect they use the identical pedal, but altered the instructions relative to the location where to mount the elastic cords. Posted by lowspark (My Page) on Fri, Jul 20, 07 at 11:02 I'm not sure what the door mount kit is, but you have to have a pull out trash in order for the foot pedal to work. In other words, your trash bins should be hanging from a rail attached to the door OR sitting on a shelf attached to the door. The door should pull open like a drawer (not swing open like a normal cab) and as it pulls open the trash bins come out with it. Note that Häfele makes two different pedals, one for the bins hanging from rails and one for the bins sitting on the shelf. I'm not clear on which one you've linked to above. Also note that these foot pedals are designed for frameless cabs. I don't know if they can or have been used on framed cabs and would be interested to hear about that if anyone has. Here are the links I have to the two kinds of Häfele pedals: Pedal for trash can which hangs from rails Pedal for trash can which sits on base Note: In both cases, the foot pedals are toward the bottom of the page...See MoreTrash - Foot Pedal AND Soft-Close?
Comments (8)If you're talking about the Haefele foot pedel, No. The foot pedal & soft close are working at cross purposes. The foot pedal works with a bungee cord whose function is to keep the pullout open. What keeps it closed is a strong magnet. Kicking the pedal releases the magnet, allowing the bungee cord to relax, and the pullout to open. Soft close works to keep the drawer closed. As soon as the drawer reaches a certain point, the soft close mechanism is pulling it the rest of the way to make it close. One trying to open, one trying to close, one will lose, and my guess is that it will be the soft close. You can still close it with using your hands, I do sometimes with my hip or knee. You just have to follow it through all the way till the magnet catches and it's fully closed....See Morequestion about my new trash drawer foot pedal
Comments (11)I've had my haefele foot pedal on the trash drawer for 4 1/2+ years now. It took me a while to get used to using the pedal so I used the pull a bunch of times at the beginning. And yes, guests usually just use the pull too. I've not yet had a problem (knock on wood). I do think that using the pedal is preferrable. I've read that comment about it being bad to use the pull here several times, but I think that would only really hurt it if you did it habitually as opposed to occasionally when guests do it. Tam, I would try to get your family to use it. I'm not sure how tight you have the bungee cord attached, but my drawer doesn't come bounding out with any great force. It opens to about half way so that the trash can is fully exposed and the back recycle bin is only about an inch exposed. I often stand in front of it deliberatly as it is opening so that it hits my leg, so I can throw something away without looking, and it just gently taps my leg. If I want to get out of the way as it's opening, it's not like I have to quickly leap away to avoid getting hit. It seems like your daughter could learn to get out of the way, I think....See Moreplllog
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