Goodmorning all your tropical nuts! (I mean that kindly hahah) Regina you have a lot of babies there...I think I have my first plumie seedling not sure though the tag was lost...I have only been trying since last winter..hahah Thanks Mariann Those are some great prices...I hope you and hubby stay high and dry! I will be thinking of you..Please check in so we know you are alright :) Amy those tornadoes missed you shooo...That was some bad damage on the news this morning....Dee sends wonderful stuff..I have her gardenia she sent me last year... Frances bodaius pics..I cant wait for the daylilies...I can enjoy your beutiful flowers..:) Eye candy for sure! Ruh roh computer woes...Get it fixed so we dont miss you...Did you get a laptop fro your vacation to take us with you? hahahh Mariann I take 6-10 inch cuttings put in a glass canning jar and place on my dinner buffet table all winter...Just pull the little leaves as they emerge...I even forget to change the water...hahahha Them turkeys still live...In spring I pot them up and wa la they grow.... I also took my plant last year..Chopped her down to two feet and placed her in the very cold basement off the floor with hardly any heat down there and no light (we heat by wood upstairs) Well I brought her out in spring and now she is three feet in the same soil..hahah I need to give her new soil..... I only gave her a cup of water every now and than...They go dormant in winter if you make them...... I have a picture of my cuttings I will dig for it....With all of us growing them you sure know where you can get some cuttings for sure this fall..:))) We dont cut them know because we are waiting fro them to flush... Frances seedlings bloom the second year from what I was told...I have quite a few of them growing....Same with daylily seedlings for us up north..:)) Barb

(((Gal-lelly))) >>My daughter has ACTUALLY said to a family member at one point, "I know that if I ask for something and my mum says No,that I will keep going on till she gives in!".I donâÂÂt call that demanding, I call that disrespect. You have taught your daughter not to respect what you say, but to keep on until you cave in. She does not know how to respect the word NO. What do you think will happen when she gets into the real world and someone tells her no? She wonâÂÂt be able to handle it. What do you think will happen when she gets a job? Do you think sheâÂÂll respect her boss when he tells her no, you canâÂÂt have those days off for vacation? Your daughter will have a hard time when she starts dating. You know for a relationship to work both parties have to be willing to compromise. How will your daughter know how to do that if she is used to getting her way all the time? But it's not too late to change things. Next time your daughter asks for something and the answer is no, and she keeps on, this is what you do. Say for example she asks: "Mom, can I stay up 30 minutes late tonight?" And you say "No, we have to be up early tomorrow." "But mom, itâÂÂs only 30 minutes!" "I said no." "But mom, pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease, pleeeeeeeeeeease! I want to watch this new show!" Say this in a firm voice: "I said no, this is NOT up for discussion. If you continue to beg, you will have to go to bed 15 minutes earlier." âÂÂBut mom, I only wanted-â "Okay, thatâÂÂs 15 minutes earlier you have to go to bed" "Mom, you are being so unfair!" âÂÂThatâÂÂs another 15 minutes.â And follow through. MAKE her go to bed 30 minutes earlier, or whatever punishment you see fit. You are going to have to be really hard on her for a while, because she is so used to getting her own way all the time. You should watch some episodes of the Nanny - she shows how to be firm but loving with your children, and has some great discipline and reward/punshment techniques. Another thing to keep in mind, how do you think your other two children feel when they see their sister getting away with things? It's really not fair to them. Another thing - you don't have to "pay" for taking the kids away from your ex. How could you have taken them away from him if he was never around? You were married for 21 years so NO ONE can say you didnâÂÂt try to make it work. You did not leave him, he left you when he stopped doing things with you and the kids. My exH was the same way as your ex, he never spent any time with me and our two daughters. I felt like a single parent even though I was married. I divorced him after 11 years and wish I had done it sooner. And during the divorce I found out he had been cheating on me. I give you permission to forgive yourself. You need to stop punishing yourself about the divorce and concentrate on being a good parent to your children. This post was edited by Amber3902 on Tue, Jul 23, 13...

Still I will not say that Op is a bad mother.Op didnt elaborate on the details of the money issue.We dont know anything about it.Perhaps her DD had promised to help her with something before and backed out.Perhaps it was something serious. And if all of you can sit there and say you wouldnt be slightly hurt if you really needed something and after all you have done for your child they wouldnt help you when THEY had the chance,well,I think you're lying. Do I think it should continue to strain their relationship? No,of course not.But I would never call someone a bad mother unless there was significant evidence that what the mother has done has tramatized the child.Child doesnt seem too bothered since she wants to stay TEN DAYS!

There is only one thing I'd like to add regarding the about the Story that started this thread. It looks like it's been 7 years so some of the pain has subsided as far as the shock which we just experienced with losing our Dog just days ago. I have depression, ringing in the ears, vision issues, all from the stress. All the advice here was better than i can offer as far as dealing with the guilt and the loss. My issue is the comment about the care while his Dog was in the care of the Vets. First off-the cost. We spent 1400.00 so they could screw around and lie to us about the possible results of meds, therapy, blah blah blah while the dog we loved struggles for every breath from the stage 4 heart failure. It didn't take a genius to see He was dying on the table. I was not happy as far as everything being so expensive and just the lack of common sense that you'd expect from someone in that profession. I t seems like it was all about the money first. They want you to go out and adopt a Pet but they make it so unaffordable that few actually can. I hope everyone here has found a little peace but I know it will never be the same. I wish there was some way to make these situations better but I've got nothing.