So I seem to have been able to do all that I wanted to know how to do. Now for some comments... I like knowing how to change the font, but I agree, I would use it rarely. What I find myself wishing I could do on a fairly regular basis, is putting something in italics, underlining a book title, putting a word in bold. As for the color, something else I would rarely go to the trouble of using, but again, I would like to know how to for that rare occasion when I might. Such as in a Christmas greetings thread or something like that. Most of the time I would not take the time to do that. As a matter of fact, I use the firefox browser and if you notice when I tried to use the color tags, I thought it didn't work. That is because firefox limits html commands when using their browser and I didn't see any red words. I realized that you did and I went and used Internet Explorer and sure enough, I saw the word red in red ink. Strangely, I didn't see the other effects. That was confusing and I have no idea why. BUT, in the browser that I use every day, the commands I wanted to use work fine with the directions you gave me. So I am all set. The thing I wanted most to do and will probably use more frequently than the others, is posting a photo inside the post. I used to use Tinypic, but at some point something changed and I was pasting the command they were providing and it still wasn't working. So these directions worked for me. I compared the command you were suggesting to the command Tinypic provided and they were different. But I think I would still use the Tinypic site to upload the photo and then just change the command where needed. Finally, on Nan's concern about resizing the photos. I assume that the concern is the time it takes to open a thread for someone on dial up when one of the photos is oversized. So the photo I posted above, is oversized? If that is a problem, I will go back and review the directions for resizing. Hope that helps. :-)

time to move down

So I did find this piece from UPC. So it seems I can have up to 4 vertical and only 3 horizontal excluding the horizontal main out to sewer/septic. Do six unit traps count every trap or is this a combination number like dfu. A standard bath would have 3 traps each so this wouldn't make sense b/c 6 unit traps would only allow two bathrooms on a vertical stack. I assume that unit-trap just means the size of the trap and the main thing that matters is DFU with the 4 WC vertical and 3 horizontal exception. This post was edited by stitz_crew on Mon, Dec 9, 13 at 21:37

I am one of a number of folks here who have run gas to or from an island -- in my case, both. When we bought the house, we wanted to have gas and we didn't think we could or would move the cooktop out of the island. We had gas run across to the island. When we redid the kitchen, we wound up replacing the cabinets and moving the cooktop to one of the walls. So we've run gas twice here -- each time, about $500. It does involve patching or replacing flooring -- we did one of each. Unless the flooring is a major issue, I suspect the column will pose as many issues and costs as a channel in the slab. The cost of running the gas line and shut off will be the same - if not more by going overhead since there would be a lot more gas line. The column is also something you have to live with and around -- that is a functional and aesthetic cost. I have to agree with the others that you should have good ventilation -- especially with gas and especially if you are using a wok, hot oils and enough heat to scorch the wall. We ran a duct through the joists in the ceiling to get a vent when we moved the cooktop. We ran a 10" duct, but a 6 or 8" duct would be even easier. It's safer and your home will smell better and stay cleaner if you have a vent and use it. I notice a difference in changing from a downdraft in the island to the overhead on the wall -- in part because it works better and in part because it is not as loud, works better and we use it more. There is a reason for having vents, and when you have a good one, you will understand why. When deciding on a coooktop, also consider not only the power for that wok but also the quality and control of the flame and the burner placement (that wok should be up front).