Home Equity Loan/2nd Mortgage???
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Comments (4)Are we getting the horse a bit back of the cart, here, possibly? Have you bought your house yet? I assume not, in that you don't have mortgage set up, it appears. I'm not familiar with the housing situation generally, and certainly not with what's going on in your area, but the housing situation in many parts of the U.S. is in a real mess. Many bought several years ago, with small equity, and paying something like 1.5% interest directly at the time, but the actual amount being charged was much higher, say, 6% ...with the extra being added to the principal owing! The contract specifying that the rates were to be renegotiated after a certain number of years. When the amount that the mortgagees actually needed to pay became apparent on renegotiation ... the people couldn't pay it. So the house went on the market. Along with thousands of others in the same boat. Those (what many of us would call "spurious") mortgages were peddled over wide areas. Including to a Canadian bank in which I've held shares for 41 years, during which time share price advanced from $4.20 to about $106. and change, last May. Unfortunately, it seems that my bank had also backed an insurance company that had underwritten many of those lousy mortgages. As you know, North American stock markets are down a substantial amount during the last few months - but nothing like more than 40%! You can understand my feeling that I'd more or less like to use those guys who dreamed up that shady way of doing business as targets at a shooting range? The speed at which the Fed began freeing up money when this problem surfaced a while ago, and has moved on it again since, including today, in concert with the Canadian central bank, and some European ones the same, leads me to think that there's a lot more trouble yet to appear in the housing crisis in the U.S. Remember the Savings and Loan crisis of something like 30 years ago? Some are opining that this may turn out to be worse. If I were you, and it's at all convenient, I think that I'd be sitting on my money for a while. By the time house prices get down about as low as they may be about to go ... ... perhaps you'll have had the opportunity to have saved most of that $30,000. shortage, especially if you go into fairly heavy-duty savings mode in the meantime ... ... in which case - perhaps your problem may well have disappeared. Maybe more than disappeared ... for possibly the house you want may have had its price dropped by that $30,000. ... possibly more? And you may well have more than the "extra" $30,000. on hand ... ... Hey! maybe you can have enough extra down payment to be able to avoid mortgage insurance! The loss in value of that stock of mine since last May is about half of the amount that you're short. But I've held it for 41 years, so I guess I'm more or less too much attached to it to sell it now (and this is not the time to sell it, in any case - might be time to buy more). Just some food for thought. My daughter's wanting to buy housing in the Phoenix area. I've been suggesting to her for months that she keep her money in her jeans for a while. She made an offer last year, there was $5,000. difference, with neither stubbornly willing to spring for the diff. Within a few months, after she returned to her former location in Toronto ... ... she told me that a re-valuation of the premises had come in ... ... at $20,000. lower. Now she's back in Scottsdale, keeping her eye on the situation. Maybe even both eyes, on occasion? Sitting on her money ... still (I hope). I hope that you're having a great old week, at your "house" - (wherever that may be, at the moment!). ole joyful P.S. I'm not as upset as it sounds - when dealing with much of business in general, and the stock market, in particular, if one were to sweat the small stuff (or take a short-term view) ... ... one would have one's fingernails chewed down to bleeding, a good share of the time. Closing on age 80, very thankful to be enjoying good health, with only a small portion of needed health care payable directly, and fairly sure that I have sufficient assets to carry me through the remaining days of life ... ... with some residue for charities and offspring ... ... I'm a happy man! o j P.P.S. For many families, buying their home is the largest contract that they ever make. I strongly suggest that you make it your business to investigate the current housing crisis in the U.S. thoroughly, up, down and sideways, during the coming months, including prospects in your area. There may be a hurricane approaching. o j...See Morehelp!!! advice needed asap for 2nd mortgage
Comments (12)It is really hard to decide; my rule of thumb has always been, which will require the least out of my pocket in the long run? Without doing all kinds of calculations (that I can't do, but I believe that there are websites that can calculate it for you) I can't say for sure. There are advantages to the fixed rate refi, especially lowering the interest rate on your original balance; but could you get a lower rate and less out of pocket from a HELOC, paying it off first with the same discipline that you have been using? Have you talked to a credit union? I did take out a HELOC from my local credit union in order to pay off my mom's condo loan; there were no closing costs, fees, etc and the lowest interest rate in town. That was before the crash -- and it was long ago paid off, so I don't know if such a good deal might still be available. Don't know what repairs you need, but some large companies (hvac, roofing, siding) will offer low cost financing too -- you have to read the contract very carefully to be sure that you are getting what was promised....See MoreRemodeling in this economy
Comments (48)We drive older cars and do not go as far away as we otherwise would or for as long as we could in order to do our house the way we wanted so it would work for our family. When we went to Disney 2 years ago, we used Priceline and stayed in a fabulous almost new hotel about a half hour out for $42 a night. That included a very nice breakfast for the 4 of us. We rented a car from Rent-a-Wreck and saved over $450 for doing so. It was an ugly Taurus, years out of date, but it got us where we needed to go. We spent time together but were frugal. My point is, that we could have stayed in a resort on the property and blown a lot more money. Instead we economized and were able to go for 8 days in a row to Disney and really had a blast. We all have choices throughout the year where we could spend more or less. We choose to spend more on our house and less on other frills. A $1 dvd rental from the grocery store works just fine for us rather than hitting the movie theater for a family of 4. Sometimes we borrow a dvd from the library. Most of the time, we have shows saved on our tivos, which were bought 10+ and 8 years ago with lifetime service (total service for both of $450 or so). My dh's car is a 99 Acura bought used 7 years ago. Mine is a 2003 Honda SUV bought used 5 years ago. They are not chic by any means, but they work reliably and we have no payments. Other people I know lease cars for a couple of hundred $s a month and yet think we are odd for paying that same amount more on our mortgage for having remodeled. We made our house bigger when we renovated and those aspects are not going away or getting dated. Our house will be worth more for having done that. It is not oversized for our area and yet, we have all we need and want. Just last night, I spent several hours baking with my son in our kitchen. There was room for both of us and we had a really good time. We have to delay any big vacations for a while, but our day to day lives have gotten better with having a better layout and more room. Our new oven has 3 rows of racks and convection, so we needed to spread out to bake the many batches we needed (we are hosting dh's baseball draft tonight and I have an open house tomorrow, so we made a ton of cookies). Even though our reno went horribly wrong on many fronts, I enjoy the new space much more than the old cramped bad layout. We are pursuing the gc for compensation, so hopefully, it will be finished within the year. In concept, one should not count on their house for their investment, then again, I know many people who would not properly save money any other ways. If it is in their pockets or bank accounts, they view it as spending money. We have faith that economy will improve over time. By staying put, we will save on closing costs and hassles later on. Our house was designed so that we can age in place when we are older. We will never need any larger and it was designed for energy efficiency. We hope to add solar for the electric in the next few years. We have retirement accounts and will get social security and dh's pension, but if something ever went wrong, we could borrow against the house, or if we were seniors, could get a reverse mortgage. If you rent, you don't have that option. The people I know our age who do not own a house, do not seem to have loads stashed away. Money has a way of being spent if you don't have something specific for it. Those lattes, designer pocketbooks and expensive restaurant meals really add up. We eat out with a coupon most of the time and rarely pay full price. We enjoy eating at home with the room to cook and eat comfortably. Since having more space to entertain, our social lives don't have to revolve around eating out or going to bars because we don't have space to fit everyone. Dh's draft today will involve 14 men and we will be able to feed them dinner and refreshments easily. In our old setup, we'd have had to clear out the living room to get that many in and it would have been tight. In our new layout, they can fill the dining room, den and kitchen table within view of each other and be able to proceed with their drafting comfortably. When the kids have playdates, there is plenty of room for each kid to have friends and not be in each others' way (or mine!). I get a kick out of seeing people's faces when they come over and see the new layout. It has transformed the house from needing an apology about the condition to accepting compliments. It is not even completed and people can enjoy how far it has come. I walk in the house from work and enjoy seeing my dh and sons doing their thing in the new spaces. When I empty the dw or do laundry, it is not such a task any more. I really enjoy cooking more and that is with only 1 portable burner because we are not hooked up to propane. The extra space and new oven compensate for that. I guess I am going on too long, but the short answer would be, we enjoy the renovated/extended outcome and know it has improved the value of our house. We would not get back the money put in, but we also made our choices wisely and have a better return than if we "invested" in cars, fancier clothes, mani/pedis, etc......See More2nd mortgage question
Comments (6)I appreciate the reponses.... to basically address what Molly said, no I don't have a professional appraisal yet. I am basing it on market prices I've seen in my town. Currently besides one bank owned property the lowest house listed is at 395K. and the house next to me, which is small too, but differnet in a number of ways just sold for 380. I guess my point is I know I'm below these by some but I'm really at the floor of my area so I don't think my values are too far off. As far as the 450-550, right now i'm a 2/1 and would change to a 4/3. Pretty much all the decent looking 3-4 br colonials in the area are 500-700 listing. Assuming things are moving at all, I would think I'd at least get 450K as a final appraisal. Just as an FYI after buying the house, we did put 40K into remodeling the kitchen, current bath and rewiring/replumbing the house. This has helped "increase" the value somewhat. At the height I would have expected $410-$425 for my house. I don't like the idea of the expendature now either, however there is a reason. As of now as a 2br/1bath, if we do have kids, it will be tight. However the driving force as to why do it now, is that our roof is failing. It requires a complete rip off and replace of 2 layers of asphalt and one of ceder and completely plywooding the roof. Cost to do it from 2 companies so far os $11-12K. So the thought is it will cost 10%-15% of the cost to do the dormer to do the roof. We've been talking about doing the dormer since we bought the place. Lets just do it. Right now I feel we're undervalued for the size due to the number of bedrooms. 2/1s are not popular, and we're actually decent sized and a great layout, but it is holding the value of the home back which is why I feel that we can recoop most of the construction costs if we sell. I would just insulate and do the roof and trade up in a year or 3, but closing costs are terribly expensive on Long Island. My closing costs to purchase were 15K, throw on another 15K-20K for the RE to sell this one, and we're 1/3 of the way to putting a topper on mine. We still may just do the roof, I just want to know my options....See More- 22 years ago
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