As sunlight supplement CFL are great. Without sunlight light quality becomes an issue. With enough quantity the quality issue can be partially overcome but I for one notice that some plants that just sit there under a 42W CFL and just start to come alive under 85W CFL do better than under either under a 60W incandescent. Even though the CFL are rated at 4x the incandescent efficiency the light is not as nutricious (hows that for technical Clara?). Wonderlite combines an unknown number of incandescent watts (probably more than 75 but less than 100) with a mercury vapor HID. The mercury vapor is more efficient than CFL and the incandescent is less efficient than CFL. Does it balance out i.e. is a Wonderlite as efficient as a CFL? I don't know. I suspect not quite. Iff value is not considered, the 125W CFL in the premium reflector is a very nice light but the Wonderlite doesn't need a reflector (its built in). It uses more watts than the 125W to give perhaps the same amount of actual lumens perhaps less but some plants will grow better under the Wonderlite. The Wonderlite is very, very hot and cannot be used very close without extensive acclimatization. It works best at a distance where it can light a wide area with medium low intensity. The CFL can be used much closer, much, much closer. Maybe the ideal basement setup has both kinds of light working together? H

geotect first of all is this the plant your looking for? http://www.desert-tropicals.com/Plants/Agavaceae/Agave_americana.html And I KNOW! I'm gonna get flamed for this.... easy please people that read this, they are for sale in AZ, larger ones are pricey that's one way to put it. As far as I know they are not endangered or regulated. If I am wrong I know I will be swiftly corrected here. I have been lurking for year's because of that. Flame me but please don't turn me over directly to the feds. geotect they are in my yard and pup alot in winter... I am also not at That home now but will be then. Best time to uproot them anyway. Bad news is..... they are not light weights they are bulky and heavy we are not talking S.A.S.E. here. 1 to 1 1/2 footer's my 'pups'..... they grow bigger that 3 feet I can tell you. Send me an e-mail maybe we can make a trade.... find me live Ube, and I will pay the postage.

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Hi Sue, I had to chime in and say after years of fuzzy tv we went Dish Network last year. Pay the extra and get the DVR if it does not have it included (mine was for 2 years). The newer systems are great - I can do a search for a show or movie and it will search and tell me when it is on. I can record just new shows of a certain show and no more tapes or reruns. It is against my tightwad policies too but so great to have great tv so hubby can watch his sports, I can watch anything else. I did not get the HBO, pay movie packages and updates. Writing the check (they charge another $5 for direct pay) makes my skin crawl but I would not be without it. Did the search and Big Spender is on A & E at 5:30 PM on July 30. Thanks Nethound! Kathy