24 inch speed oven options. Smeg, Berta, and Miele?
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Speed cooking ovens--Smeg?
Comments (16)The Smeg can broil (see owner's manual). You won't find the word "broil" anywhere in the user guide, but that's because the British/European word for what Americans call "broiling" is "grilling" and although that's indeed the manual for the US-market speed oven, they didn't translate it into American English. (kind of like how I wondered why the Gaggenau oven that for access was called a "lift oven", until I remembered an elevator is a "lift" in Europe). Read the instruction guide (pages 13-16) and you'll see the grilling a.k.a. broiling element can be used by itself, with the convection oven, or with the microwave. The Jenn-Air speed oven has a broil element, but it appears it can only be used in conjunction with the microwave. I thought the Miele did too, sure looks like it IRL, but I'm not familiar using these. The Advantium 120 works as well as the 240v version as a convection oven, and almost as fast as a microwave, but takes twice as long and doesn't work as well since it relies more on microwaves in the speedcook mode, so you don't get quite the crispiness you do with the 240v. The Advantium 240 runs on twice the amperage as well as twice the voltage (30A vs. 15A), and since watts = amps x volts, the A240 has access to four times the wattage compared to the A120, and most of it is used for the additional halogen lamps that are utilized for speedcooking. The Smeg runs off 240V/30A, same as the Advantium 240....See MoreMiele Master Chef 24 inch
Comments (3)This is not reall a 24" convection oven but simply a new Speed Oven with manual controls. This version Does Not have Miele's MasterChef menu system built in it was replaced by the knob interface. This and the lack of a temp. probe are what makes it cheaper than their MasterChef Speed Oven. That said it does meet many of your needs. It is the smallest 24" oven in the U.S. market, though it does not have a bottom heating element so some may contend it's a hybrid. As a micro it will do all you ask of any micro, it's wasn't an afterthought. As a baker it might disappoint you. It only has provision for 3 racks and you'll have to buy 2 from parts if you want to use all positions. Then you'll have to find cookie sheets that fit it and maximize available room - that'll be tough. The cavity is OK sized for a microwave but a tad small for a baking oven, it is primarily a "convience" oven rather than a serious baker. There are few choices in the micro / convection oven arena. Pretty much all are cheaper th an the Miele. They are also smaller, and have less flexible rack options, and no broiler element. They are fine for baking a pie or a game hen but after that they have limited function. What would prob. suit your needs best would be the CMT from Thermador. They had a 24" version that was a real conv. oven then had a microwave added to it. Sadly it didn't sell well and was discontinued 5-10 years ago. You might find one in the secondary market if you look hard and long enough. If you have space for a micro else where a better bet ($$$ wise)would be to get a serious euro convection oven and a nice stand alone micro. Miele's H4000 if you like them, or Kuppersbusch, Smeg, Fisher Paykel, Fagor, Delonghi, all have them in 24" (60 cm) and all are under $2500. Some are sub $1000....See More36 gas range: Smeg - Fratelli Onofri or Berta master?
Comments (17)I have been browsing the 36" range offerings for the last two months as I have been going through a kitchen remodel, and considering the best options. I have to say I am pretty dissapointed by whats available, the cost point and how unreliable many of the choices seem. I am a professional chef and work on industrial stoves all day, many of which I could purchase for half the price of these so called pro style ranges. Unfortunately they are not insulated for use next to cabinetry. After looking at NXR, Berta, Smeg, Verona, and Fratelli for not wanting to spend more than 3500, which should be adequate, I have decided to go with the GE Cafe Series CGS990SETSS. I thought I would be getting more oven space with a 36" range but turns out not to be true. The GE offers two ovens with over 6 cubic feet of combined space, a 20,ooo btu burner, a included griddle, convection and many, many positive reviews. It also offers many convenience options like roll out racks, digital touch display, sabbath mode, timed shutoff ect... that the bare bones euro models couldn't think to offer. When I considered all of this, the $2500 price, extra cabinet and counter space, and parts and service that I wouldn't have to wait months for, it seems like a no brainer. I appreciate everyone's threads and contributions in making this decision and hope my opinion helps. Here is a link that might be useful: Best price warranty I found...See More24 inch oven --please help me choose
Comments (8)I looked at those too! They sounded awfully appealing but I could not find much info at all about them, and I would have had to order them online. I thought the AEGs were out of circulation in the US, but maybe not? I was able to order the Fisher Paykels from my local high end appliance store, have them delivered, get a good warranty for local service etc. I decided to spend a little more to go with a more known and supported product. I drooled over the Mieles a bit, but the 2000 dollar price difference convinced me otherwise. Good luck shopping. I must have looked at these ovens for 5 years before I finally had all my ducks in a row to do it....See Morexedos
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