Hardi vs Smartside or..?
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Comments (21)I have Hardiplank on SEVEN homes which I own. Speaking from experience the James Hardy product is pure junk. It is highly hydroscopic, meaning iT absorbs water readily. Once the siding has absorbed water, paint peeling is the likely result. We observe that on the south, west and eastern sides of our homes paint peeling is generally less of a problem as the sun exposure warms the siding and drives out most of the moisture absorbed in a heavy rain. The northern exposures are a different situation and that's where paint peeling is the biggest problem. In coastal locations Hardiplank is at its worst. Wind driven rain will force its way behind the siding and will often find its way behind the laps and will literally get between the siding and the paint forming large balloons under the paint filled with water! These balloons can be as large as a foot or two wide and unbelievably can hold 4-6 ounces of water for months until the peeling sets in. You pop the balloon and water runs down the side of the home! Additional areas where paint peeling and Hardiplank delamination often occur are any location where there is a high 'slash' effect off of gable roofs or splash from decks or porches back onto this siding. iF YOU READ THE MANUFACTURER'S INSTALLATION INSTRUCTIONS, THEY WANT YOU TO KEEP THE PRODUCT 'X' INCHES AWAY FROM DECKS AND ROOF SURFACES, HOWEVER THIS ISJUST NOT PRACTICAL IN MANY CASES. In a real sense this is Hardy's own admission that the product is not suited for geographic areas of the US which receive a fair amount of rain due to water absorption. I've read lots of painters saying the problem is the paint. Over the years, we've tried all the major brands including Behr and Sherwin Williams and numerous others, and in our experience the paint makes little to no difference. In our view the product is not suitable as an exterior siding unless the structure is located in an arid environment like the southwest. Many homeowners have been told it's an installation problem. Except in the rarest cases, I do not believe it. I have seen rampant delamination of the product 2" from a patio surface and 20' above as well. I have experienced the butt joints open up as much as 3/4 of an inch on hot southern exposures. All this means that the product is swelling and shrinking constantly and inherently causes paint to peel as a result. In short, the product does not appear to be suited for the purpose for which it is intended: SIDING. I would not put it on a dog house!...See MoreCosts of Hardi -vs- Certainteed fibercement siding
Comments (6)Overall, I think factory painted (either hardie or certainteed) will be less because of the labor involved with on-site painting. Our "fiber cement" bid was all messed up...we did not get separate bids or competative bids, for that matter. Here's how our builder did it. They quoted a price for siding in our house bid which they listed as certainteed. I was a little disappointed because I had a hardi color in mind. From the bid, I assumed we'd have to use certainteed. Then, when it came time to actually pick the color, the siding contractor sent me samples from hardi, certainteed and a caulk brochure with dozens of colors. He said I could pick anything I wanted - the price in the bid would not change. It included the materials and his labor. This leads me to believe that hardi and certainteed are "about" the same price. The siding contractor is going to get his cut. Since he didn't care whether we used hardi or certainteed, I assume his cut was about the same for either product. Hope this helps......See MoreTRIM (not siding) - LP Smartside vs Allura vs Hardie
Comments (1)We live in MN. Our builder loves Boral and recommended it to us. Easy to work with, stable and works well for our climate. Pricing comparable to Azek and other products. Here is a link: http://www.boralamerica.com/truexterior...See MoreBrick vs. Hardie Plank cost quotes for new construction
Comments (2)The cost per unit area metric for brick and siding fails to consider the effects of size and architectural details of a particular home. Brick details such as soldier course or jack arches, water table brick, etc. can add significant cost....See More- 9 years ago
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