Bob, tried to do the deed, no luck, spoze I will have to sign in? I don't even want to do that, but if necessary will do so, if it will just make the darn thing go away. Thought I had it gone, but still coming back, so maybe that is my only solution? Also, on that page that you referenced, there was a mention for free scan of Windows errors, would you recommend that as well? Shaddy thanks so much for your help, always on the mark.

MSN mess. is now called windows live, why would the contacs location be a prob.? and you can probably change that...

Yoyobon said: WHY is a 13 year old allowed full use of the internet without restrictions and supervision? You are asking for trouble and you will get it I guess I didn't explain what NetNanny is well enough, my skids were never allowed to just go on the internet without restrictions or supervision. NetNanny is like cyberpatrol, it blocks all mature/adult content/ sex/ drugs/violence you name it. And the pages that the kids are allowed to browse are reported back to us so we see where they've been. Also we can turn the chat on/off and same for facebook/myspace etc. Or we can turn the internet access off completely for the hours that we choose. The only issue (big issue!) is with the chatting. We cannot control WHO they chat to, only that they chat. The agreement was that they would only chat to friends, and BECAUSE we monitored it we noticed it the first time that SD13 thought she was going to have a chat to Justin Bieber. But yes, it's too unsafe, at 13 you cannot see the dangers, so no more chatting. And CyberPatrol does look like a good program, it offers the same as netnanny. But unfortunately I've found no movies on the subject, however the NBC series might be a good step. Thanks for all the advice :-)

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