Well You are probably tired of hearing from me But I am in the same boat :-)

You have to ask yourself what it is that you want and need.

For me, the answer to that question was a second oven. This meant that I wanted a Convection MW that could hold at least one full sized cookie sheet. Taking at least one full sized cookie sheet eliminated several contenders. The GE Profile Convection can take 2 full sized cookie sheets. Also, though not as fast as the Advantium, when you combine both the MW & Convection (fast bake), you can cook up to 25% faster than a conventional oven with very nice browning.

According to the online specs  neither the 120 nor the 240 OTR Advantium are Convection Ovens. But they are speed cookers. However, if you want a speed cooker then you should consider the Whirlpool Velos which is a speed cooker and a convection oven. But, it still cannot take a full sized cookie sheet and the Profile Convection can take 2... :-)

jeri - I am not tired of hearing from you and was hoping you would chime in!

One of the reasons I was sold on the Ge Profile was the fact that it had racks vs. a turntable.
Then the HD salesman last night said that you can take the turntable off and put a cookie sheet in it and it did not have to turn (which is NOT what I read on this forum. Oy!).
Also, when researching posts last night, I saw a tray/stand that apparently fits in some Advantium models and not others. According to what I was told last night,
a rack cannot be used since the halogen lights are what browns the food.

Oh the confusion. I wish I had longer to decide. I have one more local source to check today, then I HAVE to buy!

jeri- another question.

What, other than the speed bake, would be the beneift of the Advantium?

What, other than the speed bake, would be the benefit of the Advantium?

Hi Jenny. You still have not answered my question. :-) What do you want your OTR unit to do???

The only benefit of the Advantium is the Speed Bake. The 240 can bake a potato in 4 minutes. The Advantium 120 built-in can speed bake, is a "true European Convection" oven and has a 16" turn table. That is a very nice unit. But the OTR model does not have these features, so you would by the Advantium 120 for the speed cooking feature. But, like I mentioned, the Whirlpool Velos is a speed cooker and a convection oven  so if speed bake is important to you, you should look at that. My Sears has one on the showroom floor. IÂm not going with that because I want to be able to cook 2 cookie sheets (love roasted veggies!) in the unit I buy but I did give it serious consideration.

BTW  The Profile does have a turn table and 2 racks. When cooking with Micro Wave only, you would remove the racks and use the turn table. Some of the negative reviews of the Profile is that you have to remove the racks (and store them somewhere) when using the unit as a MW. The Profile is a very good Micro Wave and has sensor reheat which I have read works very well. I plan to store the racks in the cabinet above the unit  standing on end. I donÂt think this will be too big of an inconvenience for me.

Then the HD salesman last night said that you can take the turntable off and put a cookie sheet in it and it did not have to turn (which is NOT what I read on this forum

Are you referring to the Profile? You can remove the turntable and put a third cookie sheet in the oven. Someone from this forum (canÂt remember who!) tried to cook 3 sheets of cookies in one of these and said it didnÂt work very well. She said 2 sheets worked great  but not the third. I can live with that. Remember, this unit can also double as a warming drawer, so perhaps that extra space can be used for that! :-)

Also, when researching posts last night, I saw a tray/stand that apparently fits in some Advantium models and not others.

I have seen this rack too. In fact, the Sears guy threw one in the Velos I was looking at when I was bemoaning the fact that I could not put a cookie sheet in it since it had no racks. He said I could put my cookie sheet on that (smart salesman)! IÂm sure it can be used in the 120 built in (Convection) and could hold 2 round plates for extra capacity.

So, Jenny, you still need to answer the question. What do you want your OTR unit to do???

And, you really canÂt go wrong. They are all good units. IÂm sure you would be happy with what ever you choose :-)

Jeri, thank you for your time helping me with this decision (I've made too many with our new build and am on overload, not to mention I'm not a great decision maker anyway, LOL).

As for the turntable rack, I was referring to the Advantium OTR. So, it CAN be used in the 120 built-in but not the OTR?

I've never used a convection or speed bake, so quite honestly, I'm not really sure what I want/expect a convection/speedbake to do! I do most cooking from scratch, not much prepackaged/prepared items. I would think it would be useful for meatloafs, lasagna, chicken/meat, veggies, cookies, brownies, bread etc. Really, most anything you use your oven for, right? So, a second oven would be nice. Does the Advantium have enough *space* for cooking items like this (assuming you might want to use a 9 x 13 pan?)

Speedbake would be a nice feature, but how is the Advantium Speedbake different from the Profile? Is it much quicker than the 25-30% speedbake option on the Profile?
So, basically, you can cook greater quantity with the Profile rather than the Advantium, right? I would think this would be a plus for my family of 4.

My last question (ha!) is, do you think the Advantium browns better than the Profile?

Jenny  hopefully some others will chime in  or you could ask Advantium specific questions which are bound to get answered.

As for the turntable rack, I was referring to the Advantium OTR. So, it CAN be used in the 120 built-in but not the OTR?

For sure it can be used in the 120 built-in. Convection is hot air circulating around and over the food to help cook it more evenly than a conventional oven. The hot air will definitely surround the food on two levels. IÂm sure you will love cooking with Convection. Convection alone is marginally faster than conventional  but the results are superior. The Profile allows for "Fast Bake" which combines the MW (cooks food from within - all nice and juicy) with the Convection hot air (cooks and browns nicely on the outside) for an increase in time up to 25% faster. IÂve never used a speed oven (Halogen lights) but I would think the lights would have to hit the food for it to brown so I canÂt see how a double rack would work in the OTR Advantium ovens.

I will also tell you that there is a steep learning curve for speed cooking (Advantium). Very few cookbooks deal with this so it is a lot of time and error figuring out what works. This is not the case with Convection. Obviously, IÂm leaning toward the Profile  but IÂm just sharing my reasons why.

I do most cooking from scratch, not much prepackaged/prepared items. I would think it would be useful for meatloafs, lasagna, chicken/meat, veggies, cookies, brownies, bread etc. Really, most anything you use your oven for, right? So, a second oven would be nice.

You will love Convection for all of these purposes and yes  a second oven that can also double as a warming drawer would be very nice. :-)

Does the Advantium have enough *space* for cooking items like this (assuming you might want to use a 9 x 13 pan?

The Advantiums are smaller. I donÂt think you can get a 9 x 13 in the OTR Advantium  not 100% sure though. I think you can with the Velos  that thing is a monster!

Speedbake would be a nice feature, but how is the Advantium Speedbake different from the Profile?

Speedbake uses MicroWaves along with Halogen lights. The Profile can "fast bake" using MW and Convection. You can also use Convection alone in the Profile. I will probably use this more than Fast Bake or MW. But I can do all three in the Profile. :-)

My last question (ha!) is, do you think the Advantium browns better than the Profile?

Remember  Convection alone is just a better oven than Conventional Radiant heat. So better browning. Does Speed Bake using Halogen/MW lights brown better than Fast Bake using Convection/MW??? Good question! My guess would be "No". I hope others weigh inÂ

I really see no advantage to the OTR Advantium (the built-in 120 is a different story). The OTR's do not have Convection. This seriously limits your options if a second oven is what you want.

Thanks again, jeri. You have been very helpful.

My gut has told me to go with the Profile. Then, when we went to HD, they had sooo much to say about the Advantium (which, part of their information was incorrect). In fact, they told me the Profile would not brown much at all, and that the Advantium would brown meats very nicely. Adequate browning is definetely a factor for me.

I've googled as many reviews as I could find on the Profile JVM1790SK and the Advantium SCA10001KSS. Mostly positive on the Profile, some negative on the Advantium, mostly from the Kenmore Advantium model (ie. unit completely shutting down, handles falling off).

So, maybe I will make a pest of myself on this board and start another thread about browning.