I love all the discussion in this thread! Special kudos to jeffcat for his fragrance efforts and so diligently reporting his findings back to all of us! :) It is so true that all of our noses interpret scent differently. I guess "citrusy damask" is what I think of Double Delight, but with a special added something that I think everyone in this thread is trying to put their finger on: sharp top note? chemical? peach? clove? ______? I actually do agree with hoov who described the unique element of Double Delight as chemical, yet pleasant. I would never have thought of it that way, but I read that and immediately thought yes! weird! I get that too! But I would never describe Double Delight's fragrance as like peach or clove. (I don't have any rose I'd consider peach scented. I have Lady Hillingdon, in which I definitely detect apricot fragrance and I actually detect that same scent in Apricot Beauty tulips, but it is maddeningly faint.) kstrong, interesting I have read descriptions of Double Delight having a "spicy" fragrance, but I don't get that clove element from DD at all. I have Secret Garden Musk Climber and love it (For others reading, it is not in fact "musky" at all, but pure clove scent. Yummy!!!) jeffcat, maybe an interesting connection here. I have several red roses that go through a distinct clove element phase that doesn't predominate overall, but is just there at certain later stages of bloom. (I'm thinking of Gloire de Hollande and Royal William at the moment but I know there are others.) I'm wondering if in mentioning Crimson Glory and Liebeszauber you're picking up the spicy/clove element that others are getting from Double Delight...? I don't remember the scents of Garden Party, Charlotte Armstrong or Summer Fashion-I clearly need to get sniffing! I do also love the fragrance of Pope John Paul, very intense citrusy damask to me. And yes Secret is another strongly fragrant rose I grow. I don't know how to describe that fragrance except to say that it's strong ;) I wanted to say, too, that fragrance comments posted on roses forum have really influenced me to try roses that would have otherwise escaped my notice. Serenasyh, I have seen varieties of roses several times in public places look/smell like nothing, but trusted some experienced posters here and the roses have turned out to be been real fragrance winners. But I only discovered that once they were growing in my own yard and I could enjoy them at all their stages of bloom. So Lemon Spice is still on my list to buy. :)

I have white appliances (whirlpool) and am replacing my stove and fridge. I have decided to get a white stove (since I have a white over stove microwave) and I'm considering going with an all stainless (no black) fridge. We do have some stainless/black small appliances (toaster oven, coffee maker, etc) so I think the stainless might look nice with that, but I don't want to have to replace the dishwasher and microwave right now. Thanks to the pictures in this thread I can visualize that it wouldn't be so bad to mix them up!

The current Mac operating system is Unix based, it is basically a very nice user interfaced Unix system. As such it is very difficult to write anything more than a simple virus that will infect only one level of a single program. The use of the super-administrator effectively stops the virus from doing a system wide attack. Most Mac viruses were written for prior operating systems NOT based on Unix. Even those were fairly rare and harmless, usually worms. To say there are many threats to the Mac is huge exaggeration, especially in comparison to what Windows sees in way of virus attacks. Apple does release security updates. They are primarily to close small theoretical holes in the system and make the OS as secure as possible. No actual virus has ever been reported penetrating those holes. One argument is that Mac's represent a low percentage of computer uses and hackers only go after the dominant Windows platform. However Hackers are out for glory and what could be more glorious than to write the first virus which brings down the Mac? A system that has been untouchable since the introduction of OS-X nearly five years ago. I believe that if they could - they would. This is not to say there won't be a successful attack on the Mac in the future, anything is possible although it is unlikely. I'm not going to lose sleep in the meantime.

I had a 6 year old Mac Airbook that I loved. However, I spilt some tea and the right shift key stopped working. I loved that computer so much that I kept using it with only a left shift key for over a year. Then the touch pad became wonky and it was getting really slow. Long story short, in January I was just "looking" at Best Buy and went home with a brand new Mac Book Pro. They had zero financing and a long try at home period. Now I don't know why I suffered so long with a malfunctioning Mac Air. To answer your original question I had always been a PC user and for somethings I do prefer a PC. If you are doing any picture editing, or art designing go with the Mac Book. My friend has a 15 inch MacBook and uses it for Photoshop but finds it too heavy to take on photo travel. He may buy a smaller 13 inch just so he can carry it on trips without breaking his back.