Hi By cloud forest do you mean those eternally cool places with extreme humidity.? Check the average temps at Monte Verde . If you attempt this be sure to put in your own power plant lol. Or maybe you live on a mountain top.?? Now if your talking lowland rainforest that's attainable. Since I live in S Florida it is almost easy . One gigantic problem . My "rainforest " quickly becomes a "jungle" lol I only started integrating my shadehouse in 2000, before that it was mostly used for hanging baskets. Put in a 8x10 seep wall last March and my ultimate goal is to use no pots at all.. I seriously don't think this will be attainable in 12x25 but eventually it will expand to 25 square.. I'm not allowed to have the roof above 9 feet which is not nearly enough room. I really don't care if it's a "replica" of a rainforest just so it works well and each segment compliments the others. I'm an epiphyte freak and to me this is what "rainforest means. It will never be a "Cloud forest" due to the heat nor will it ever be a representation of a lowland RF with specific species. But the fantastic "growth on growth" one sees in these forests is achieveable. None of the problems have so far been insurmountable. Requires very careful selection of species with such limited space. I'm going to start adding birds during spring. Very carefully selected species lol. gary

got it :-) Lucy

I've had the same thing happen several times actually. I just jump back and hold my breath for a few seconds, and then spray the cloud emitting area with a water bottle a couple of times. My "clouds" seem to come either from moldy tater tots or hardened clumps of cardboard. My takeaway? Don't add tater tots to the bin, and shred cardboard before putting them in.

I got to the line about the cat on the picture frame and burst out laiughing. Don't taze me, bro! This is especially funny because I actually DID something like this to myself. Many years ago we lived in a sketchy part of the city and there had been some serious personal crimes all around us. My husband gave me a tear gas pen for protection. It was the size and shape of a large fountain pen and had a cylinder of tear gas on the end. Of course this new toy was very tantalizing and we were very curious about it. We decided to open the window a little, stick the pen outside and shoot it. What we forgot was that in the dead of winter, the cold outside air was rushing in with a vengeance. The tear gas blew back in the apartment and nearly blinded us both. It was awful! Boy did we get educated in a hurry!