there is no doubt in my mind that the pc has some serious infection on it, the things it was doing were give aways, the redirects and the google problems are things seen from infection. Depending on who tried to clean it and how they did it could they have caused some of the problem my guess is yes and since we are now seeing other errors I would guess there are now some problems with the Operating system it self. the problem you have is that the laptop likely has the exact same infections, my guess is you visted the same sites with the laptop and that you got the infections on it as well as the desktop. I would run the malwarebytes on that laptop immediately. Do not worry about not being able to do it this is extremely easy to do just jump in and do it, the directions are all on the link I provided step by step. Download, install, update run full scan, tell it to clean what it finds, reboot when told to. Simple. And once you do that we can get a log from the laptop and that will give us an idea of what infections we are dealing with.

Firefox is currently 32bit, so just install Java runtime 32bit will do. Even on 64bit OS, your default IE version is still 32bit.

Apparently that is what it is.. Oracle has updated its widely used Java software framework to fix critical vulnerabilities that criminals were actively exploiting to take full control of end-user computers.

Hello again nice people, I have a question. Since Zep has led me through so many steps and has helped me clean up some of the junk on my computer my question is this. What will the results be if I can find no way to get Java downloaded? Is it absolutely necessary that Java be on the computer for things to work right. I see no results from NOT having it, other than not being to play some games, I play most any game I want without any trouble, most of them very graphic. I still need to delete the Firefox Beta version and keep the right version, but I've got to straightened out the shortcut Icons on my desktop, they're both intertwined. Other than that I don't seem to be having any problems. I don't know if there is something else on the Hijack list that needs to be addressed, Zep didn't say so I assume that there is not. I did get the problem with Incredimail straightened out. That also was a register error. After today I am headed for hopefully a wonderful trip to Yellowstone National Park. I will check on this thread as soon as I get back to see what you think about leaving well enough alone. Thanks again for your time and sharing your knowledge.