FYI: There's a WIP (work in progress) by Tex Norwood and others notable plumerians to catalog photos and descriptions - see plumeriaid.com. He's also put together a community-driven plumeria portal (also WIP) at plumeriasales.com, which includes sales, trades, events, docs, etc. Much of this is being driven by several Facebook groups (both public and hidden). As always, Laura, thanks for the kind words, and hope to see you out here again some day. In the interest of being a good end user, it's useful to define requirements before designing the solution (ha- too many years in high tech). What do I want to accomplish? 1 - from the description and photos, decide if I interested 2 - prevent duplicates due to AKAs or 'very similar' 3 - decide if it is suitable to my growing conditions 4 - make recommendations 5 - ID unknowns (with usual caveats) 6 - understand risks (e.g. BT, bud drop, vitality) Flower description - PSA has certainly defined the language and process, as have the Oz folks. However, this applies to the 'One True Bloom'. There's certainly more that can be added, but it does provide an excellent vetted baseline for what the flower should look like. ID an unknown - providing a best-guess of a named variety requires much more info: back of bloom, leaf, bark color, etc. That's where we need much more baseline info. Add to that the zillions of unnamed plants. However, if you purchase from a reputable dealer / hobbyist, there's a good chance it was a named variety, and can be ID'd. To root or not to root: which varieties should / must be grafted, and which ones make good graft hosts. Nice to know info: 'parentage' so when getting seeds I know which produced winners; 'source' for tracking down a rare plant or to give credit for some awesome new ones. I think it would be very cool to be able to bring up photos of known seedlings. Permutations - This is a biggie: whether regional, heat/cold related, humidity, it's easy to see that blooms can look completely different due to growing conditions. Capture that info, it's very useful. This is my personal axe to grind, and why each of my plants gets 3 bloom cycles to prove itself. If my notes say 'needs heat', I don't even get the plant. The list Laura refers to is a tracking file: # tips, if it bloomed, # inflos, BT, source, and so on. At the end of every year, I ruthlessly ponder, thin the herd and send selected plants to a new (usually warmer) home. BTW, if anyone wants a copy of my notes, just drop me a pm. irun5k et al: I'm chatting with a few non-GWers to gauge both the level of interest, feasibility and willingness to contribute (important!). Love your comments. ivysmon: thanks for unleasing this discussion, and to answer your original question, here's my notes, and note the contradictions due to growing conditions... Bill Moragne, Sr. #156 AKA William Moragne Sr. William Moragne, Bill Moragne, Sr. Pink, elliptical moderately overlapped petals, 2 ½ to 3”. Upturned inner edges and heavy dark pink veins. Petals blend from dark pink to white. Red-purple stripes on the reverse and a yellow eye. Strong grape fragrance. Keeping quality is good with an average tendency to fade. Tall grower with thick branches. Can be difficult to root. Should be grafted. Branching is below average. Oblanceolate leaves are medium green with acuminate tips. Pod parent: Daisy Wilcox. Pollen parent: Scott Pratt. 2 1/2-3" pink rainbow with grape cool aid fragrance. Striking multi-rainbow color with rounded petals about 3 - 3 ½”. Develops one of the biggest flower heads. Extremely difficult to root. Cuttings are almost impossible to root. Incredibly large clusters. Medium tree. The inflorescence is huge! Very beautiful rainbow with heavy veining. brilliant pinks, white and golds. Fragrance is sweet and intense. Grows fast and strong. Wonderful addition to anyone's collection. 4" and blooms in tight bunches. Recommended for fragrance. Needs to be well established to bloom. Varies depending on humidity and heat. Pale almost like a Mardi Gras until heat/humidity turns it red. Bill was married to Jean. His daughter in law was Jeannie. His daughters were Mary M. Cooke, Sally M. Mist, and Katie M. Bartness. The granddaughters were" Edi (Cooke), Julie (Cooke), Cindy, Kimi, Cathy and Kelly. Slow grower.

albert- My response was to your first post. Looking at what you subsequently wrote, I'd say that it may make sense based on whatever filtering and spam identification software Yahoo has in operation. Spam filtering is a complex and imperfect art, and that folder with many links could have looked suspicious based on whatever algorithms were at work. If you try to send the links in the folder like you did at first and it gets kicked back again, that would likely confirm that this approach won't work. However, if you can use something else, like gmail or Hotmail, it may get through.

my Yahoo messenger works fine so far today. Yahoo has several servers around the country. So at least they arent working on mine... yet. Which is probably what is happening on yours.

Sjerin, sometimes there is something worth looking at. I don't want to block her completely for that reason. I guess I could mark it as Spam, and it will go to my spam folder. That would work. But this whole episode negates the Filter aspect. I've read where some people designate several emails to separate folders/filters. Recipes, Freecycle, store fliers etc etc. Isn't that what all the time-management gurus say, and how to clean up clutter in your inbox.