Again, ELISA, when properly done, is 100% effective, and has never once, in the 30-ish years we've used it, failed to give an accurate analysis. This is considering the following: 1. We always enclose "blind" samples of known infected and known uninfected tissue -- blind to the lab -- and unless the results come back with them correctly identifying all of those, we would not believe their results on our unknowns. That assures that virus titer is in a usable range on the day the test was done. In actual fact, in all those years, they (WSU Prosser's ELISA lab) have NEVER gotten one wrong, even once. Pretty good record. 2. Once that's done and a rose is "certified" clean (notice that ELISA is just one of the tripod of tests we run -- they're also tested with 'Mme. Butterfly' and 'Shirofugen' cherry -- all 3 must come out unambiguously clean) -- no rose once certified in that way has EVER later been found to have rose mosaic. Not one. Not ever. Not even in cold climates where all the intelligent people live. On rare occasions, the lab has said a test was somewhat ambiguous, and in those cases, we ignored all of the results from that run, and re-ran them later. 3. While we use the three tests for redundancy, we've never seen a case in which one test came out positive while the others came out negative -- in 100% of the roses I've ever tested, all three methods have agreed on their result. So obviously, the point of this long, drawn-out discussion with all kinds of complaints, is moot -- there is no problem here. We have no problem at all identifying where the disease is. No evidence to the contrary has been presented here. I would like to say that you can't argue with absolute 100% success, but obviously, there is one person who is determined to argue continuously with absolute 100% success! So yes, I'm just working our way toward the 150 posts mark, and hoping to keep us focused on the real issues, rather than being constantly drawn into perfectly silly little side arguments that are in and of themselves without merit.

plant bug I will try to make it easy for you, use this tool to remove the AVG you now have on your pc. How to Use AppRemover to Remove a Complete Security Application If you want to go with MSE by microsoft this is the link Microsoft Security Essentials If you prefer to stick with AVG this is the link for the free version AVG hit the download button at the top right (light bulb) During install it will ask if you want other additional items say NO they are not needed they include a toolbar and some other stuff that is very hard to get rid of.(which is why I don't really recommend it much these days)

AVG 7.5 has been popping up saying it would end on such and such a date but it did not they are trying to get you to switch to the new version. Now todays date of Aug31 was the one they had put on their forum as the end date but the people I had talked to at AVG said they would continue updates to 7.5 till December. I have not talked to anyone recently but I have not been notified that the Dec date was changed. So I guess we will see. If it keeps updating after today it will likely go till December. If you do have to go with AVG 8 please follow their direction here on their FAQ on how to get AVG 8 with out the extras. FAQ that link also provides you the direct link to the free version.

Mudlady, Chevy, Ford, foreign or domestic. When this issue comes up everyone has an opinion. Like Randy said, " If there was one best,everyone would be using it". For what it is worth, my new Vista system had Norton Symantec and it created all sorts of problems. As a result I uninstalled it and installed AVG. AVG works fine and I have not had one concern with it. Being free it makes the conversion even sweeter. Good Luck! Enjoy! DA