owbist, these two were not listed. I have tried and tried to download them to no avail. Cannot seem to connect to the MS help site, either. I've been using my wi-fi, but I think I'll try connecting directly to the modem and see if I can get them that way. All the others downloaded and installed without a hitch, but last night when I was doing this, my connection slowed down and these would not download past the 45% mark. If a direct connection fails, I'll just give up and try again in a couple of weeks after our move is completed and I'll have cable service. Right now, this 3G service sucks.

I use linux also my fave distro is Mepis (dual boot with Ubuntu) but with any MS OS comes IE and with IE comes the patches so as long as it is MS OS it will have IE and therefore needs the patches. Does not really matter if we use firefox and thunderbird as I also do since IE is part of the OS. I too love linux.

I know when I was shopping for a computer in Jan. the best prices and biggest hard drives were for 64 bit. It seemed you got more for your money going 64-bit. After checking, I found out that the software I use for work would not work with 64 bit systems. I needed my computers to work well together and didn't want to chance mixing 32 bit with 64. I later learned from a couple of people who bought 64 and couldn't get some of their software to work and continued using their old computers for certain things. At first it was blamed on Vista, but later determined it had to do with 64 bit. My guess is that people who are good with computers can work through these problems and get their machines to run smoothly, but for the average computer person, it is too difficult. I guess it is the wave of the future, but I don't think the software people are spending a lot of time on it. Also, there are some hardware issues with printers and scanners. You need to check carefully before updating. Personally, I don't want computers which give me a hassle. I bought two new machines last year with XP. I want machines to 'just work.' Jane

It is interesting Pooh. Based on your post I downloaded and ran the program. At the moment this is still a BETA program, in other words it is being tested by those of us who elect to use it. Once all the kinks are worked out the final product will be available no doubt. On my computer it searched all 3 hard drive partitions and found 10 insecure programs and 4 end of life. However those tagged as end of life will not be removed, these are old programs I use and will continue to take the small risk they might pose. The live link to the right of each entry takes you to the needed update site for that particular program. It is one more program running in the background. Time wil tell if it stays on my computer but it is an interesting program