In the past, I got roses at Capital Nursery in Sacramento, but I have heard it is on the downswing and not doing well at all. People have complained about limited stock, but in years past, they had lots of roses. You might take a look at Green Acres Nursery for the more popular named roses--also in Sac. Regan's is such a great place to visit (or it always in past years.) They are very nice and helpful, too. It might be worth the trip for you.

For the shaded area, on the wall, I would plant Alba Semi Plena, and Felicite Parmentier, from vintagegardens.com or Hortico.com (mail order in September) with six hours of full sun you have a wide choice of roses in our latitude, From roguevalleyroses.com and a.r.e. on the wall with trellising support Crepescule on the wall Marachel Niel on the wall, Spray Cecille Brunner, on the wall Mme. Alfred Carriere Reve d'Or or grown with lower canes removed as a self supporting bush. from pickeringnurseries.com in septermber Celine Forestier grown as a bush or climber M.A.C. Alistair Stlella Gray for a climbing rose or stripped of lower canes and grown as a 6' tall shrub. pickeringnurseries.com For deep and rich fragrance. vintagegardens.com Mme. Boll Musk scent. Reverend Seidel R. moschata I'd plant several of these in a row where the breeze with carry the sweet musk scent for several yards away from the bush. Horico.com Arrilaga , huge spiral centered silvery pink cabbage shaped roses, good rebloom, needs full sun for those large blooms and gets some p.m. nearer the coast. Baronne Prevost very fragrant and disease resistant, here. Autumn Damask' roguevalleyroses.com fragrant and very pretty. Grandmothers Hat, a great reliable rose, Morcom park in Oakland has several of these planted in a row, grown 5' tall, as well as a climbing rose. fragrant and disease resistant. annies annuals may have some if rogue valley has sold out. vintagegardens has already sold out of all the Tea roses, but you could buy these from roguevalley roses.com or a.r.e.: Mrs. B.R. Cant , pink, fragrant and long blooming season, it blooms from March through early December in my garden. Westside Road Cream Tea' white and scented, 4' by 4' 1/2' tall, very resistant to p.m. a row of these with Grandmothers Hat in back would be my idea of fragrant beauty. , i Cornelia' from hortico.com they sell it as a Musk rose, it is my favorite rose bred by Pemberton, small blossoms in profusion, scented of musk and rose. Blush Noisette' Mermaid (hortico.com a climbing rose that I've espaliered on my back fence to keep it in line, spicy fragrant lemon yellow rose with beautiful red filiments. Red and fragrant Hybrid Tea rosebushes, disease resistant in my no spray gardens: Souvenir du Claudius DeNoyal Crimson Glory Papa Meilland , not floriferous but the cupped roses are huge goblets filled with perfume, when fed well. In our latitude all the China, Old Garden Tea and Noisette rose are shade tolerant, for roses this means they still need 6 hours of full sun, or 4 hours of full sun and 4 hours of filtered sun the most fragrant Tea I've ever smelled is 'Anna Olivier' it is very disease resistant even on the coast by the highway near Monteray. alba class roses need fewer hours of sun: 4 to 5 will serve in this latitude, all Alba roses bloom for 3 to 4 weeks in one bloom season each year, but they are very pretty plants even when out of bloom. I have grown all the roses listed above except for Reverend Seidel' in my no spray gardens in Oakland, and Richmond, Califonria. Roses to avoid in no-spray gardens in or near San Francisco, Ca or wherever conditoins favor the spread of powdery mildew: Georgetown Tea Ducher' both defoliated in my garden from p.m. and this greatly lessened bloom production. Feed the soil first before you think of fertilzing. I love Orchard Hardwares "Rose Soil" I used to have to mix c. 10 different items and micronutriets with alfalfa meal and bone meal etc. but its all in the rose soil. I use 1/2 bag for each hole for a regular sized rosebush (4 to 5' tall) to a full bag for climbers, and large Tea rosebushes, be sure and mix native soil in with it, or you will get the bathtub effect. 50% to 60% rose soil depending on if you have the heavy California clay that I do. a shovel full of well rotted manure, horse is very good, organic steer manure is also fine 25% to 33% of native soil, the soil from the hole you dug. well rotted compost to bring it up to 100% just f.y.i. I'd do a ph test before you begin, roses like slightly acid soil, do another test after you mix the soil blend and plant the first rosebush. Good luck, Luxrosa

Following up a few months later... The experiment with perennial tomatoes did not work out. They pretty much shut down after the pruning. Still, home-grown tomatoes at Christmas is pretty cool. This year, I cut way back on the number of plants in the greenhouse, from six tomato plants to two, and it's much more manageable. I've also tried to layer the plants in the greenhouse bed: Strawberries on the bottom, peppers in the middle, and tomatoes up high. This does not work well. The tomatoes and peppers have very deep roots. Strawberries are shallow rooted, so you wind up either overwatering the tomatoes or underwatering the strawbs. And even though you get strawberries a month before you'd get them outside, there's no point in having strawberries in the greenhouse when you have perfect strawberry weather outside. Next, maybe carrots and beets for the lower stratum. The peppers I planted are the Spanish Padron, which have become very popular. They have a reputation as having variable degrees of spiciness ("unos pican, otros no"). The deal with these guys is that they're quite hot *once they're mature enough to set seed*. So...if you're going to grow these guys...harvest early. They're best when they're tiny.

Again, thank you! So interesting to see something instead of just reading a menu.