Is our Wolf/Sub package cost a deal?
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What appliance package would you choose? Thermador or Wolf?
Comments (6)Hi Sorry about your fire - that sounds awful. And sorry for long response. I'm in similar appliance hunting mode and trying to pick the best appliance package for under $14K. We could probably pay more but already feel like our kitchen project is out of financial control and costing more than i ever thought! So what i did is that i really like the advantium and i like the bosch dw (thermador is same). Really all i want is the culinary rack (3rd) in DW so that limits the model #s. KA offers this as well. Miele - i just don't love for the price. The thermador package didn't work for me because i really wanted the advantium as my second oven (and thermador doesn't have equivalent). Plus the free DW isn't the one with the third rack. (you can pay $500 to upgrade to that one though) Bosch is offering 15% rebate by mail if you buy at least 3 800 series appliances. And monogram is offering $1000 instant rebate if you buy a cook/rangetop, oven, and hood. With my current quote that i am considering, I'm getting about $2300 off total by combining those 2 offers for 6 pieces (mg rangetop, mg advantium, mg hood, bs dw, bs fridge, bs single oven). Looking at your appliances here are my immediate thoughts: if price is no object subzero makes the best fridges if not antiquated stylewise. They are so solid. i have one that 23 years old and it runs great and still looks good. the service has been good. but i can't spend 2/3 of my budget on one appliance! wolf is good and stylish but i found the specs to be better other places: monogram then thermador - and cheaper. don't do downdraft ventilation if you can avoid it. look at hood companies - vent a hood, best hood. they are nice. my friend has a samsung fridge and its beautiful but the plastic is breaking and she doesnt recommend it. i like the electrolux ovens. very cool. but no package options. bosch and thermador are very similar if not the same for some products. i'm trying to figure out if the bosch 800 series oven i'm looking at is the same as the massterpiece thermador oven at a lower price. thermador is higher end brand than bosch. gaggenau is even higher end. rangetops are really nice - more burners and higher output and in monogram all are the same. but you lose a drawer underneath. i'm coming to the conclusion that the oven problems that some are reporting is due to fancy electronics being destroyed by self clean. thermador and monogram get terrible reviews here for ovens. with equal price and specs i would go with the subzero and wolf (i know this isn't true - sorry!). I would doubecheck what you are getting for free. it may be low end compared to everything else you are getting....See MoreMy experience with Wolf, SubZero, and Therm/Bosch DW
Comments (1)That was helpful. Thank you. Trying to decide between the Thermador 48" range and the GE Monogram 48" range. Looked at the Wolf, but out of our price point (you've got to draw the line somewhere!) I read that the star burners on the Therm got a bit 'overzealous' and it was hard to control or heat a smaller pot? Have you had the Therm before? Would you find this, about the burners, to be true? How about the griddle? Happy with it?...See MoreThoughts on our appliance package/plan
Comments (3)I would pass on the Wolf semi-open burners for Captial's true open burner.Same size, cofiguration,and quality 304 SS contruction just better burners and better insulated oven door(not by large marging,but better). Capital Culinarian Series CGMR484G2L $8039 True Open LP burner with griddle. The Wolf insert and blower are good value but for a little more money(~$700) Modern-Aire and Abakka remote blower are better. I had my refurb Sharp MW drawer factory serviced free of charge. It was past the one month refurb warranty but less than the standard one year factory warranty. It was a gear that needed replacing.It was a goodwill gesture. Tech said it was just as likely to need service whether I got new or refurb. Below is a link to factory direct Perlick seconds/ scratch'n dent. Signature Series a bit quieter and a bit better at maintaining even temps vis-a-vis Sub-Zero. Here is a link that might be useful: Perlick Seconds...See MoreNeed the experts: Thermador package, SubZero Wolf ?
Comments (8)I have Thermador fridge, freezer and 2 DWs and Wolf rangetop and ovens. I checked out the Thermador rangetop and really had no problem with the burners. The clicking only comes into play if you are using the super low simmer, and I don't use that on the Wolf unless I am walking away from melting chocolate (otherwise the regular lowest setting is fine) or have something very delicate simmering and that's not my usual cooking style. Most people aren't going to use it very often to begin with. If you would, then you need to check one out and see if it would bother you for yourself. I have called both companies and dealt with customer service -- Thermador only for a question or ordering replacement filters (they are actually cheaper form the company so once a year I order a couple). I've never encountered a problem or rudeness. I have had my Wolf ovens replaced -- twice. I consider the new ones still in their testing period. Everyone says it is a rare Wolf that will have a problem and I figure that is about my luck. The folks at the company couldn't have been nicer or the service much better, so I really don't have a complaint with them. This oven preheats much faster than the one I originally had, so I've come out ahead on that. I may not be any help, but I can't guide you away from either company. But I do love the Thermador fridges better than what SZ had at the time. If I had to have a one company package, that might have done it for me. ;-) Neither one is going to be a bad choice....See MoreSusan Gress
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