Our new cast iron tubs (Toto) and cast iron shower pan (Kohler) have the non-slip grips and they don't feel too rough at all. I've sat in my tub a number of times since it was installed thse past June, and it really isn't even a noticeable thing. The circles (in the Toto) and the rectangles (in the model Kohler we have) have enough texture to prevent slips, but are far from uncomfortable in the least. FYI, our tub and pan are white, as are the grips. I use an original style Mr. Clean Magic eraser on the grips every so often to keep them as clean as day one.

Hi All! Does anyone know where I can get the best price on a toto Ultramax in Va? I used a dealer in WV but can't find my invoice to use them again. I'm looking at about 400.00 Plus, can anyone share their experiences with either Jacuzzi or American standard corner bath tubs? Specifically, the heater component, the jets and the brand itself? I' m looking to place 60 inch corner tub. I'm interested in the Jacuzzi but DH likes the Cadet by American Standard. I don't want to spend more than 2,000. Any ideas? Please TIA Dawn

I respectfully disagree with Jon Boy's recommendations to put decals on your tub. You will be permanently defacing your tub with those decals. Try ever getting them off. It's impossible to do it; there'll always be residue and the shadows of those decals. You will also have the same problem as with a non-slip surface--those decals with their textured surface (as described in Jon Boy's link), will grab onto grime and keep it. I also disagree that using a bath mat is like "your grandma's house or a cheap motel". If you need a bath mat, use it, for goodness sakes. Roll it up and put in in the cabinet or vanity when you are done with it. Besides, perhaps the OP is a grandfather, and Jon Boy inferring that being at a grandparent's house is something negative to avoid is condescending. One of the tubs in my house does not have a non-slip surface, but one of my other tubs does. The one with the non-slip surface (it's cast iron) is permanently dirty looking, despite all my efforts to clean it. For the tub without the non-slip bottom, I personally have never found the need for a bathmat, but I do keep one on hand for guests who might want one. It's nice to have that flexibility. Decals are permanent, and kinda '80's too.

The plumbers like the lighter tubs because they are easier for them to carry around and put in. Cast iron usually provides for a much better tub. You caught them in a switch. Good for you. Make sure you didn't get charged for CI. We provided tubs and fixtures for our plumber and used Americast, which are satisfactory as they are located in rooms that don't get a lot of "action", as they are primarily guest baths in our retirement home.