question regarding dying Subzero fridge
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Comments (3)Our budget for everything but the fridge is 10-12k, and if we can get a great fridge for 3-4k instead of 10-12k, fantastic. To be more clear, here is what I am thinking: 36 inch 6 burner gas or duel fuel range Separate wall oven Either sharp drawer microwave or micro with wall oven Hood insert Dishwasher Fridge- hoping for 28-29 cu ft in one counter depth or built in fridge, or a smaller one that is highly functional. Not opposed to a separate fridge drawer, but thinking that would add cost and take up space Had not really thought about warming drawers, steam ovens, or speed ovens- thinking ill do just fine without and we are limited on space- it is an open floor plan and I don't want to be looking at tons of appliances all the time!...See MoreWolf 48' single or double griddle & paneled fridge questions
Comments (14)SZ is very old technology compared to the Jenn-air and apparently even the Kitchen-aids. The Jenn-air since 2005 or possibly before, uses the variable speed compressor. Apparently the Kitchen Aids, as well as most of the other Whirpool Fridges use that too, (according to a poster here). The poster even put up the operation of how the Variable compressor works--Hopefully you can find that post. Liebheer also uses that variable speed compressor. "To me", comparing the technologies of the SZ with a fridge that has the VSC (variable speed compressor)is like compairing one of my Dodges (1959 or 1964) to the latest cars built. Yep the Dodges are a blast to drive, but for efficiency, safety and state of the art----as much as I hate to admit it---(The Dodges lack a bit). As far as I know, and Antss can correct me if I'm wrong, SZ does not use the VSC's. An old style compressor is like a light that can only be turned on/off (no in between or dimming) so the compressors are either all the way on or all the way off, and at least according to a post here, the compressors run quite a bit of the time and according to SZ's Operation Manual, "humming" is normal whilst they run. Not that you would need it, but I believe the Jenn-air Specs that the temp will hold within half a degree. No way the SZ can do this as it "Purposely" has to run until it is a bit colder than "set temp"--otherwise it would shut off and then start right back up again, where as the Jennair will at first increase the speed of the fan, if it still calls for more cold, it starts up the compressor (if it's off---or speeds up the compressor if it is already going (Isnt this just a bit more modern than just straight on/off (and maybe between the 2 compressors, --not that much off?) I've had the JA 48" built in for 5 years now. It is NOT flimsy inside, nothing has ever broken, bent or whatever. The lighting is great, and we like the digital controls and readouts that allow for 3 different temps in different areas of the fridge (Chrisper, meat keeper and main fridge). You can not tell (or at least I can't) when the fridge is running, and No, i'm not deaf---I have no problem hearing the Elux wine fridge run. Not all buyers look for the same thing in buying a house, I have read enough on Garden Webb, Consumer Reports, Epinions, Actual user reviews, etc etc that if I saw a house with all SZ and Wolf Appliances---I would tell the Realtor, "Next House Please". Good luck with your pending choices! Gary...See MoreQuestion regarding moisture level in wood
Comments (11)@JFCWood: Since there is a (finished) basement underneath, it is some type of composite material, and the installer put some black (felt?) over it before laying in the new floor. The floor was site finished. I've measured the humidity in the basement, and it ranges between 40-50%. @gregmills: Your input is much appreciated. I've had my floor installer come out and look at it. There is definitely a moisture problem, and we may have found the source - I'll fix it and watch. In the mean time, he did cut a whole in the wall right where the aberrant boards are, and discovered that there is no evidence of moisture, at least at the end of the floor. I will be checking the underside tomorrow since the ceiling in the utility area in the basement is not finished, and the affected area isn't far away from that. This post was edited by LuckyJoe on Tue, Jul 22, 14 at 22:04...See MoreWolf/Subzero v. Viking
Comments (11)I just want to echo what Chris11895 said about not buying "packages". You will be spending too much money. You should look at what you need and like and buy appliances individually. Salespeople will push the packages hard - why not - less work for them, more profit margin, more incentives from the manufacturer. No brand excels at every appliance, so it's not a good idea to buy a package of all one brand. Many people consider the matchy-matchy look to be dated - look at high-end kitchens in Architectural Digest and you will see non-matching appliances. Furthermore, some appliances, particularly microwaves, are just rebadges. Wolf and Viking both use Sharp microwaves, put their own doors on them, and price them double the identical Sharp. You can just buy the Sharp microwave and save many hundreds. Also, let's say you love to cook and bake, so you want the best range, but on the other hand, to you a fridge is just a box to keep things cold. In that case, why spend--gulp--$14,000 on the Subzero. You can just buy a great Subzero but one of their lower-priced models (still expensive, but not $14,000), or even a nice Kitchenaid built-in and save thousands (this is only a suggestion, I am just saying to explain that a package of appliances is not a good deal). Dishwashers - typically they're thrown in for "free" in these packages - but if they aren't very good, it's not really "free". I myself like a middle-of-the-line Miele DW. The top-of-the-line Miele DW's have too many bells and whistles that I'll never use. As to the range, I would NOT get the Viking. There have just been too many complaints about their ranges and their ovens to take a chance. Go over to the Appliances Forum - check out the postings on the Wolf, Capital Culinaire and DCS ranges. All better than the Viking range. Hoods - make sure they have baffle filters (not mesh), and that your exhaust ductwork is 8" or 10" diameter. If you must have a matchy badge on your hood, do so, but really, you don't need to. The Modern-aire Hoods are more beautiful, the Independent Hoods are top-notch quality, and the Kobe Hoods are more bang for your bucks....See Moregizmonike
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