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Trespassers in my new house?! Should I be paranoid?

mrs_egg
13 years ago

Hi all~ Our new house is framed and roofed, and we have all but one window in. There are also temporary front and back doors, but they don't lock. Right now our plumber, electrician, and heating/ac guys are doing their things, and it won't be long until we're completely dried in. We are building just around the corner from our current house, in a relatively rural area. Our neighbors are not close enough to really monitor what's going on. Anyway, this afternoon my husband ran up there to dump some trash into the dumpster and saw a car parked on the road in front of the house. He walked into the house and saw a couple walking around. He startled them and they apologized, saying they had driven by a couple of times and wanted to see what the inside looked like. We've got a chain link "gate" across the driveway and the entire property is already fenced in. There are "No Trespassing" signs posted in clear view at the front and back of the property. Obviously, one could just park on the road and climb over or under the chain, but STILL! I could understand if it was all open and easy to get to, but anyone with half a brain would know to stay out if a gate was across the drive, the whole place was fenced, and there were No Trespassing signs. Now i'm really worried about theft and vandalism. Is this common? Should I be worried or are snoopers just part of the game?

Comments (22)

  • sue36
    13 years ago

    We had many people walk in. Some people wanted to know if we wanted to sell (this was during the boom), some were curious, some were neighbors. We never had a theft, but we never left anything there (except lumber) until it was locked up tight. The windows were installed the day they were delivered. I'd say this is common, that doesn't mean it is acceptable. Get the locks on the doors and get that window installed. Don't leave anything of value in plain sight. If you have power you might want to consider getting some motion lights set up.

  • worthy
    13 years ago

    Twenty years ago here it was no big deal to walk into new homes under construction on off-hours. That's how I met a designer who later did many homes for me. He was showing his Mom one wing of a mansion that he had designed.

    Since then, the proliferation of vandals, illegal dumpers and thieves has killed that type of exploration.

    Now, most infill homes here are fenced, locked and signed. "No Trespassing" warnings primarily protect you from liability for having an "attractive nuisance."

    Leave nothing of value on the site that isn't nailed down. I order dimensional lumber on an "as needed" basis and remove all plywood at the end of the day. Leave the installation of such things as furnaces, AC units, appliances, cabinets and custom exterior doors until the very end.

    When we renoed a six-plex downtown the theft and break-ins were so constant we let one of the labourers "crash" there after his wife kicked him out. Even then, we gave up on locking one unit with a secluded entrance. It was cheaper to let the night prowlers come in and see there was nothing to steal than to keep replacing locks and fixing doors and frames.

    Now, I install an alarm system as soon as possible, even if it is just a" local" alarm.

    Subdivisions here, of course, have guards. Like one a couple of years ago who was killed when confronting thieves.


    Boxing Day fire consumes luxury Don Mills (Toronto) home under construction. The three-alarm fire took 17 pieces of equipment and 65 firefighters to control. Photo by John Hanley

    This nearly completed $2 million+ home in the heart of the area I build in was destroyed in an arson fire in 2010. I wouldn't be surprised to see a guard service there when construction resumes.

    Be thankful all you've got so far are the curious.

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  • mdev
    13 years ago

    We had enough neighbors snooping that we had it locked up more quickly than we otherwise would have. One particularly nosy one kept pulling away the plastic sheeting while we were drying the house in and slowed us down a bit.

  • lavender_lass
    13 years ago

    Some people are very strange. They will completely ignore signs and then act surprised, when they're caught trespassing!

    We aren't remodeling, yet, but we have the same problem with hunters. We have horses and post our land...no hunting/no trespassing. We've still had to threaten to call the sheriff.

    At least they stay out of the actual pasture...since it's got an electric fence around it...but I don't know if that would work, in your situation. Although, it might be tempting, sometimes :)

  • brickeyee
    13 years ago

    As soon as any wiring is installed the copper can be an attractive target for thieves.

    The same with copper plumbing.

    Put locks on the doors and secure the house.

    It is much cheaper to re-key locks than deal with a deductible that may be higher if the house is not secured.

    Insurance companies expect some reasonable attempts to secure things.

  • max_w
    13 years ago

    Consider a surveilliance system with several cameras. They are incredibly cheap. You could do something temporary (with system DVR secured in a construction trailer) or have permanent system install as soon as electical is available. Cameras are good deterrent.

  • mrs_egg
    Original Author
    13 years ago

    Thanks, everyone. Our builder doesn't seem too worried about it--he says people walk through new construction all the time just being nosy or trying to get ideas for their new builds. Regardless, he's put a rush on our one remaining window and doors so we can lock up the place. Costco has a surveillance pack pretty cheap, so I think we'll get that for a little extra peace of mind.

  • brickeyee
    13 years ago

    "Our builder doesn't seem too worried about it--he says people walk through new construction all the time just being nosy or trying to get ideas for their new builds."

    Is the sight under his insurance or yours?

    Make sure he actually HAS insurance.

  • worthy
    13 years ago

    It's all fine until you get the claim!

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    13 years ago

    We too are in a rural area and had lots of people drop in for a look-see while the house was being built. If we were there, they'd hang out and talk for a while. I have lived in this area all my life and that's just how folks are out here.

  • dreamgarden
    13 years ago

    "He walked into the house and saw a couple walking around. He startled them and they apologized, saying they had driven by a couple of times and wanted to see what the inside looked like."

    The least I would have done was get their their license plate #. That way if anything was missing at least you'd have a suspect.

    Putting in a security system is a good idea.

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    We have surprised 'visitors' and been surprised ourselves.
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    All the same we made sure our custom builder locked up after the subs left once the windows/cabinets etc were in. Matter of fact I think our insurance required securing the building after a certain stage.

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  • nini804
    12 years ago

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  • Missy Benton
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  • wwwonderwhiskers
    12 years ago

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    When we finally built, we had enough going on w/our construction site that most stuff wasn't an issue. We did however have vandalism, which cost us having one entire roomfull of Anderson windows replaced. (kids with a rock, police guess, broke out all the glass in one room). But that didn't stop half the area from walking thru - they were getting ideas for their builds, or were being toured by the builder. All that STOPPED when there was finally something inside to steal - lighting, appliances, etc. Then we all made sure windows & doors were locked up tight.

    Good luck!

  • mrs_egg
    Original Author
    12 years ago

    Well, i'm glad this thread was unearthed after a year! I totally forgot I posted it! ;) Turns out we had every right to be paranoid. My husband just had a bad, nagging feeling about the people he "busted" in our home. When the sheetrock guys were doing their thing, they discovered that all the wiring in the fireplace wall had been stolen. Later, electricians came and installed all our fans/lights, etc, and discovered that several pieces of copper wiring in several rooms had been snipped and pulled out. One area in particular were the outlets in the island in the kitchen. That was a pain in the patookie to fix and slowed things down for a couple of days. One thing my husband distinctly remembered was that the woman was carrying a large backpack and immediately headed for the car when he showed up. Now we know why. We live in a rural area and there aren't many people who are just "in the area" and decide to drop in to see our floor plan. We knew something wasn't quite right and I am so thankful that my husband showed up before they could steal anything else. In the end, everything worked out fine. We moved in over Spring Break and are absolutely loving our home.

  • motherof3sons
    12 years ago

    We are experiencing the same issue. Let one of them fall down the stairs or trip on lumber and they will try to sue. I am tired of people walking into my home. I would not walk into theirs, so why mine? Hubby and I are livid with the people that think it is okay because we are friends. GRRRR!!! We are arriving at the stage when there will be many items in the house waiting to be installed. Lighting alone is a small fortune. We dropped off can lights and bathroom fans one evening this week and I was concerned they would walk off. So far so good.

  • worthy
    5 years ago

    An ever timely topic!

    Just mulling over whether to use wood hoardings or cover the temp steel fencing with black plastic to hide the build from prying eyes. Or better to have it visible from the street. Also, maybe floodlights at night from our temporary service. Definitely an alarm system as soon as the windows and doors are on.

    Ah, Toronto the Good!

  • Storybook Home
    5 years ago
    Coworker told me when her new build was going up, she stopped by and some lady and her kid were playing nerf ball inside. I detest inconsiderate, entitled, people who think they can just use other people’s stuff. She thought it was cute innocent fun (lucky for them). I’m much less forgiving. I’d have turned them in to the builder’s security/police.
  • Storybook Home
    5 years ago
    To add: if it’s a tract home yes I know it’s not YOURS until you close. All sorts of people will walk through it from subs, to contractors, to potential buyers with the builder. We walked through a few in develop homes with the builder’s permission to see various finishes. The difference is when it’s some random squatter, homeless person, riff raff, arse who thinks what a fun place to use as a nerf ball stadium! Yes lots of people will track through the house. No, random members of the public have no reason to be there without a REASON to be there.
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