Is this price correct for subzero/wolf appliances
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Are Wolf and SubZero worth the price?
Comments (10)Having moved frequently I have had KA, Miele, sub zeroes , may tag and GE refrigerators. The present home's built in was a subzero that failed after 15 years. Shopping around I bought a subzero for just under 9 thousand this past summer. The prices were 8700 with free delivery, 9700 plus a 250 delivery charge, and another store was charging 9700 with free delivery. I had assumed that all stores were selling the unit at the same cost. Husband was pissed that I had to spend so much. I had looked at monogram and LG units along with a few other refrigerator but either I did not like the shelves or the replacement fridge would not fit in the refrigerator cabinet. Back in 2000 I had to replace another failed subzero that was 16 years old. The price at this time was 3 grand. I was stunned to see the six thousand inflation price. I owned a small Miele with a single door and under freezer. The unit was only five feet high but held a nice assortment of groceries while keeping the food fresh for days. This small Miele held more groceries than a side by side GE refrig I had when living in Atlanta. Bigger does not mean better! Having had side by sides and the single door panel I prefer the Miele and the subzero. What makes the difference is shelving space. The subzero is designed to hold a huge amount of food so I can pack a turkey along with all the holiday prep in the subzero whereas with the side by side I had to use the garage shelving as my back up refrig. I live in the northeast so temps are below freezing by November . A few times I had to scramble placing the garage store good in coolers when the temperatures hit fifty. There are many spacious refrigerators out there that are lower in cost than a sub zero but I found that it was only a two grand price difference . I could have bought a less expensive fridge but it would have sat bizarre in the kitchen cabinet. I love my subzero but there are other great options on the market that function just as well. I strongly believe that the single or french door refrigs give you the best use of space and having the freezer below is also an easy stock option. I trimmed by monthly expenses for a few weeks to negate my subzero just to calm the hubby down. Think of buying your fridge with how you will use it and what you can afford. Good luck...See MoreWolf/Subzero prices?
Comments (16)Price fixing is an agreement (written, verbal, or inferred from conduct) among competitors to raise, lower, maintain, or stabilize prices or price levels. Generally, the antitrust laws require that each company establish prices and other competitive terms on its own, without agreeing with a competitor. When purchasers make choices about what products and services to buy, they expect that the price has been determined on the basis of supply and demand, not by an agreement among competitors. When competitors agree to restrict competition, the result is often higher prices. Price fixing also includes agreements among competing purchasers or competing employers about the prices or wages they will pay. Price fixing is a major concern of government antitrust enforcement. Individuals and companies that knowingly enter price-fixing agreements are routinely investigated by the FBI and other federal law enforcement agencies and can be criminally prosecuted. Potential penalties include lengthy terms of imprisonment (up to ten years) and large fines (up to $1 million for individuals, $100 million for companies, or twice the gain or loss from the offense). Where appropriate, the FTC may also bring a civil enforcement action. A naked agreement among competitors to fix prices is almost always illegal, whether prices are specified at a minimum, maximum, or within some range. Illegal price fixing occurs whenever two or more competitors agree to take actions to raise, lower, maintain, or stabilize the price of any product or service. Price-fixing schemes are often worked out in secret and can be hard to uncover, but an agreement can be discovered from "circumstantial" evidence. For example, if direct competitors have a pattern of unexplained identical contract terms or price behavior together with other factors (such as the lack of legitimate, independent business explanation), unlawful price fixing may be the reason. Invitations to coordinate prices also can raise concerns, as when one competitor announces publicly that it is willing to end a price war or raise prices if its rival is willing to do the same....See MoreSubzero / wolf are they worth the price.
Comments (9)Another vote for Therms, though our experience is only about nine months now. One selling point was that we wanted true fully integrated units, not the SubZero BI look with the large ventilation grill showing on top. That limited us either to the BSH columns, or the SZ 700 series. For us, the problem with the 700's is that they only come in one size, 27''. That would have given us more freezer space than we needed (we have a freezer, and actually a second fridge/freezer downstairs, so need for freezer capacity was not huge). On the other hand, we cook lots of fresh produce, and have teenagers going through milk, tea, juice constantly so we wanted more fridge space. The Therms allowed us to choose a 30'' fridge, and an 18'' freezer, which was about perfect. To date, ours have functioned well, though there is an ominous grinding if you move to use the "elevator" top shelf up or down. Haven't addressed it as we never do that anyway, it's a gimmick to us. I'm very happy with choice and would never consider going back to the SZ even if we could. Re other choices: Issues with Wolf oven for me personally, I don't like the rotating control panel, seems destined for early failure (my next door neighbor's has already had issues with it not rotating on command), and questions about the flaking of the blue interior. Those are certainly not major. I am a big believer in avoiding $1000 built-in microwaves. Hard to justify buying a unit that has the same MW "guts" built by Sharp or Panasonic as a $150 MW from Target. MW's fail early in many cases, I'm happy to just junk my Panny and replace for under $200 if necessary. Re Asko: I've never been able to figure out if this applies in any way to U.S.-purchased Aksos: from current.com.au (an appliance trade site) from late 2008: "FABRIANO, ITALY: Italian whitegoods manufacturer Antonio Merloni is on the brink of bankruptcy after applying for government protection by going into administration under a process know as the Marzano Law  an equivalent to the US Chapter 11 Antonio Merloni manufactures products under the Ardo, HomePub and Technogas brands, and also owns Asko Sweden. In an internal company memo obtained by Current.com.au, titled ÂAntonio Merloni group managementÂ, the business admitted that it will be filing for the Italian version of Chapter 11 insolvency." It apparently does not affect for example Australian Askos, sold by a different branch of Asko, so that may also apply to the U.S. Maybe antss or joboxes will know more....See MoreWolf appliances at a lower price:
Comments (3)Sorry first attempt mispelled SubZero model: I am looking at Wolf appliances: the Gas cooktop CT30G, the 30 inch downdraft unit, DD30I, and the E series Oven. This is coming in over my proposed appliance budget (in Canada this is just over $8000). I was thinking of looking at DirectBUY (http://directbuysca.com) but there have been questions about them on consumer shows. Does anyone here have experience buying from DirectBUY? Or other lower cost retailers? Does anybody know of a places in Canada where these appliances may be a little less costly? PS I would also buy a SubZero BI36U in a second at $3000. I almost fell ove r when I saw they were almost $10000. Have I been looking at "pay top price here" stores or are these typical Canadian pricing?...See More
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