As many of you, I have been drooling over this grill for over a year. Your postings have confirmed my thoughts and I have already received financial approval. I will be getting this grill within the next 2 weeks. The question I have, and also saw that someone else asked but have not seen a response, has anyone done a "permanent" or "semi-permanent" installation with an LP heated house? My house is only a year old and is heated by LP. We have a 1000 gallon tank buried in the yard. All of the discussions of plumbing type and size encourage me to offer some detail as to our setup. There is a regulator on the side of the house that drops the pressure to 2 PSI. Inside there is a regulator attached to a manafold that provides individual taps for every appliance (2 furnaces, water heater, stove, dryer, and a dedicated run to the deck for a "future grill") All of this is done with a somewhat flexible 1/2" yellow (I guess vinyl) coated copper. That main regulator is supposed to be able to support all of the appliances and maintain the 14" of pressure. Outside is a stub of 1/2" black pipe to which I need to connect. My plan is a temporary connection (soft hose) upon purchase and a permanent one when I can build this unit in. I agree with the concerns of leaks and will obviously put a shut-off valve before any soft hose. I saw mention of a hose kit from HD for $35. This is listed as an NG hose but at roughly 1/2 PSI I assume it will work for LP? Any thoughts or input would be appreciated. Thanks, Lee

FWIW, I just tested this last night also. With the propane tank almost empty and running all three main burners on high, the hood thermometor hit 550 degrees after about 18 minutes. I don't have a thermometer that measures the cooking grate temperature. I opened the lid, oiled the middle grate, slapped a couple of tuna steaks on the grill, shut the lid and turned off the left and right burner. The hood thermometer had dropped to 450 degrees in the 60 seconds I had the lid opened. Temps remained at 450 degrees for the few minutes it took to cook the tuna steaks. Regards, Ladd

femgolfer, I have had this grill for over a year now and love it. I use it many times per week. I have read and made several posts about the heat of this grill and posted some solutions. I had heat output issues when I first purchased the grill and the regulator hummed loudly too. Customer Service replaced the regulator under warranty and that solved the humming. They also explained about the new tank system with the OPD valve inside. As was noted by another poster you should open the tank valve SLOWLY. This helps to ensure that the tank OPD valve does not shut or restrict the flow of gas. I used an oven thermometer at the grates to compare to the built in gauge. On my unit the built in gauge showed 425 or so, but at the grate level it was slightly over 600. But, you noted you've tested this. Also, here is something that I never thought of until I had my tank refilled recently. I mentioned to the person refilling that it seemed the heat output was low. He asked if the tank had been purged recently. A LOT of AIR (not propane) was released from the tank in this purge process. The propane guy said that propane is mixed with air to decrease the burn temperature. He noted that if this was not done that it would burn too hot for general consumer uses such as grills. But after a few tank refills the tanks get too much air trapped inside and thus the propane exiting the tank does not burn as hot as it should. The solution is to have the tank purged on a regular basis. Once I started having the tank purged at each fill up I have not had any heating problems at all. I hope this helps.

Winners for games: BINGO was Suzanne Old songs was Ruth.............. some super good choices and I enjoyed trying to hum almost all of the tunes I am enjoying the summer simple recipes and have a definite favorite. Today is the last day to vote if you have a favorite too. Heidi, sounds like a super fun package No bonus points to Ruth for sticking to "three" but I bet the extra surprises were "Worth IT" I have been growing Black Pearl Peppers as ornamentals for a couple years. Never tasted them but a man was selling plants at the farmers market and he says they are "Super Hot". If you try them, let us know