Rim joist retro insulation with spray foam?
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Comments (10)One inch of XPS has an R Value of 4.5-5, which should be sufficient to prevent condensation on the rim. However, it is way below the recommended insulation values for your climate. The US Department of Energy recommends R30 for walls. The rim area, which is abovegrade is, in effect, a wall. So any suitable insulation up to that R value will be effective. At the least, I would add batts. You could also use EPS (expanded polystyrene) in addition to or instead of the XPS. It has a lower R Value per inch than XPS, so you'll need more. But it's cheaper. Polyisocyanurate boards with a foil covering will give you up to R8 per inch and are usually not required to be covered by any other fire resistant materials. ****** I find it virtually impossible to use the handheld foam can upside down in the cramped spaces between the joists. So I cut the foam tight and use caulking. But maybe that's just me!...See MoreHow to insulate without rim joists?
Comments (9)Hello, Many thanks, as always, for the speedy replies. I'm afraid, though, that I probably wasn't as precise as I should have been. My fault. I fully expect to use XPS between the joists perpendicular to the wall, cut to fit, and sealed with caulk or Great Stuff. No need to use the spray foam as they are doing in the pictures. What I was wondering about is what I should use to fill the space between the joist that runs _parallel_ to the cinderblock wall and the cinderblock wall itself. In my original picture, it's that dark gap that starts in the center at the top of the photo and then "runs" away from you toward the bottom of the photo. That gap is the entire height and length of the joist (but the gap is not even and there are various random mortar protrusions, some of which you can see in the picture). Should I use Great Stuff to fill that void, before I start adhering my XPS sheets below that? If not, what should I put up in that void (because I don't have a rim joist)? Thank you very much! Tiger...See MoreInsul-cube for rim joist insulation
Comments (2)Stopping air leaks from the exterior is only part of the story. You also need to stop warm interior air from hitting the rim from the inside and condensing there into ice and feeding mould growth on the fibrous insulation in the rim. Do those bags create an air barrier to inside air? How are they affected by moisture? If you wouldn't blow in netted cellulose to rims, is there a difference if you put it in a bag? Not for me. Afraid I'm a fan of spray foam, even when you are required to cover it with a thermal or ignition barrier....See MoreRidiculously sloppy rim joist insulation job by insulation company
Comments (5)If they are using foam cans it isnt going to look as nice as what you see on tv with the spray guns. In any case, make sure they seal between the sill plate and the concrete also and not just the rim joist. The sill plate can allow large drafts if not sealed. With your reasonable cost they gave you, they are probably using cans, if you wanted them to get a spray foam contractor with a gun or get a spray gun kit the cost would be more. Are you going to be seeing this daily or are you finishing the basement? If you wont be seeing it, this should be a non-issue....See MoreRelated Professionals
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