Vent hood - are more CFMs needed if the duct isn't straight?
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Comments (6)I'd recommend going straight out the side. Some hoods with blowers can vent straight back, others vent out the top of the hood and should go up 24" before going out. That's so the fan is'nt blowing against the elbow. So, if you have a back vent, with no elbows and going straight out the wall, that's the best. The next best is going up 2 feet and then out the wall. Going all the way up to the roof doesn't seem to make sense unless I'm missing something. Fewer holes in your roof the better. I don't know what the overhang of the roof has to do with the ventilation whether you go up or out. If you go out the side wall, you just put a vent cap on the outside wall, and you're done. I wouldn't think an external blower would be necessary or desired....See MoreVenting: highest CFM for 9' duct, internal blower)
Comments (7)Stephanie: 12'' duct is very unusual in residential units. All units I've seen have spec'd 10'' duct as a rule. One option to discuss with your HVAC contractor would be to use rectangular duct for the constricted area. It's a bit more constrictive than round duct, but, for example, a 18'' x 4'' rectangular duct will squeeze through small spaces, and then you can run 10'' duct on either side of that. While it will act as a bottleneck, its effects should be modest, and certainly superior to using 8'' or 9'' duct throughout. In either case, you are best off with a better quality internal blower. The one that MA uses is designed to compensate for back pressure of long duct runs and will maintain flow rates even through rather high resistance. May be a bit noisier than 10'' duct but remember that with the MA you'll have an infinitely variable speed control and you'll find that you run at far below full speed most of the time anyway. I have little doubt the MA with 1200 cfm internal blower will outperform the VAH--particularly if they are quoting their mysterious "equivalent cfm" which means the actual cfm rating would be only 800 cfm to start. PS: sfjeff: two single quotes ' ' typed in succcession will be "seen" by GW as double quotes, for the "inch" sign....See MoreNeed recommendation for high CFM vent hood for 6"duct
Comments (10)Zephyr cyclones are thin, flat bottomed vents which are good for tight spaces because they are only about 5-inches tall. I have a 36" model over a 30" pro-style gas stove venting through 6" ducting. With twin fans, it has been adequate. However, the lack of height and the flat bottom constrain its effectiveness. With you having only a 30" wide hood, I would imagine the constraints would be more significant. You mentioned that you will be getting new cabinets. I suggest you check further on the Kobe hoods you mentioned. There are many favorable postings about them here. I believe the largest-capacity ones in 30" and 36" models have a a 700 CFM fan. That might well prove fine for your space for most of the time. If you can adjust the new cabinetry to allow for a 36" wide hood, it would be even better. Of course, the 36" hood would be a little bit off-center for a straight run into your existing ducting. If you can mask the ducting with cabinets or a some kind of drywall box, the angle could be concealed. If you really want a 1000CFM venting, I think Kas is right that you will probably have to go with something custom-built. One thing you might check is how freely the baffles move. There will be one immediately above the Zephyr and another one where the Ducting emerges to the outside. Over time, these things can warp and stick, which really impedes the effectiveness of the venting. With you being on the third floor, it might be hard to get a clear view of the outside vent. Maybe binoculars? RUn the hood and see how well the outer baffle opens up. Another thing to check is make-up air. No hood is going to wrk very well without sufficient air. If you open a window on the other side of your condo and put that Cyclone on high, does it vent better? If so, a make-up air system may be advisable. Depending on where you live, regulations and codes might require make-up air for any hood drawing more than 400 CFM. More to think about. This post was edited by JWVideo on Thu, Dec 13, 12 at 23:54...See MoreDuct design for 600 cfm range hood
Comments (6)Flow rate should be the same throughout the duct (barring leaks) and thus the average air speed will vary at each location along the duct in proportion to the effective sectional area of the duct at that location. If the effects of frictional losses from the greater exposed surface area for a given length in the case of the rectangular duct relative to the round duct, the difference in speeds along the duct should be quite modest. Of greater importance to minimizing pressure loss and hence noise is having a transition shape that smoothly interfaces the rectangle to the circle. Note that this sectional shape transition will very likely be a lesser cause of pressure loss than the duct interface to the hood -- typically a more abrupt transition. It likely will also be a lesser cause of pressure loss than the baffles. Be sure as installation progresses that screws and transition shapes do not interfere with damper opening or closing. Anticipate that even with low resistance make-up air, your blower will probably not move more than roughly 400 CFM at full power due to the unavoidable pressure losses of the duct, baffles, weather cap, and hood transition. The blower will only move 600 CFM when hanging in the air sans hood (zero static pressure across the blower). Without a deliberate MUA path, the achieved air flow rate will be even less such that the lower pressure inside the house (plus the pressure losses just listed) causes an air leakage flow rate that matches a point on the blower's fan curve. The safety aspect is to not let the house pressure drop below 0.03 inches water column if there are any un-blown combustion appliances in use taking air from a volume connected to the kitchen. Otherwise, there can be back-drafting of the combustion products, likely including carbon monoxide. When in doubt, take measurements, use separate MUA for the appliance, or provide low loss MUA to the kitchen. Blown combustion appliances, such as oil burner furnaces, can tolerate somewhat higher pressure drops, but perhaps not more than 0.06 inches. kas...See Morekaseki
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