I have a bed that I'm building out of 4x12s that will be 2ft deep, 2 ft tall and 12 ft long to house some chinook hops. I have 3 rhizomes to put in the ground but have read that they can really get pretty crazy in the root systems. I would ideally like to have more than just the hops in that bed. I have moneywort that is thriving in another bed with a similar exposure. Is it a bad idea to put both the hops and moneywort, plus maybe something else with a bit of body/height? What would you put in that bed?

Good afternoon deedles, My cabinets are full overlay and I have a Bosch paneled dishwasher. The panel is flush with the fronts of the cabinets on each side of it. I do have a bit more space on the right side of the dishwasher than the left but that is because of the way the curved cabinet was made. I think the dishwasher panel could have been made wider (it is flush with the edges of dishwasher door). If it was wider it could have covered some of that extra space. I read somewhere that the panel should be made 1/4 inch less than the width of the opening rather than the exact width of the dishwasher. The litlle extra gap on the side didnt bother me enough to have the panel remade. Maybe someday I will have it remade though, because the cabinet maker also put a stile in the middle of the panel even though I don't have stiles in the middle of my cabinet doors. Nobody has noticed that until I point it out but sometimes I think I should have changed it. Here are a couple pictures of my paneled DW

Lyfia, I hear you, but if the front "LR" was a dining room, in our family, it wouldn't get used. My entire life, I've always had an eat-in kitchen--grandparents have eat in kitchens, etc. When I lived in the midwest, everyone had a dining room in addition to the eat-in space, the the dining room was just really a craft area that got cleared 2x a year for large family gatherings. Both sets of grandparents live about 3 hours away, where the family farm also is. So, for larger family gatherings, we are much more likely to be at the farm (either at the grandparents' house, or the cousins) than here. 8 adults is probably the most I'll need to accommodate; a few more if you count kids, but kids are also happy to eat in a different spot than the adults. I think it most likely that if I had a really large gathering (once in 3 years that it might occur), I'd set up a separate table either in the LR or the FR to accommodate the extras. I like to use my peninsula now, as a "bar"/buffet area for those large type gatherings. Which brings me to Peke's long comments (thank you!)-- I would like to be able to have multiple areas in the kitchen where a couple people could work simultaneously without needing to occupy the same space. I think I prep like you--I'd be fine with a 32" counter space. But, I would also like the flexibility, that while I'm working in the 32" counterspace, someone could pour themselves a glass of milk without having to be in my space. Or, someone could be mixing brownies, say, and I could be prepping the next ingredient, without having to reach over them (that is getting more and more difficult as my older daughter is about armpit height now)... A lot of the time now, that mixing is done on the kitchen table (which means I'm carting water from sink to mixing bowl at the table, etc). Or, I just kick everyone out of the kitchen and do it myself. So, I envision the peninsula/island/extra counter to be another spot for someone to be able to work, without clogging up the whole kitchen function. I still want to keep a dining table (as opposed to a counter) because we do make an effort to eat, nightly, as a family, facing each other, etc. There is no TV in the same room or on during dinner. So, our dinner times really are the family conversation time. We've been lucky enough to make that choice and have it work well for our family. Our girls also really, really love that time. Bedtime is smoother when we've had that too. If I understand an eating counter correctly, they are more likely to sit everyone in a line (like what you'd see in most island bar seating arrangements). We prefer to sit in an L or C shape. My primary grocery is Costco (it also happens to be the closest one to my house). So, when I shop, things come home in bulk sizes. The walk-in pantry allows me to put too large items on the floor (and I can close the door). It really does function very well for me while still being fairly compact (since the door is an outswing, and on an angle. The inside is really shelves on 2 sides with a little extra floor space (and crawlspace access door)). The Family Room is games and toys. I really like Lisa's plan E, but also plan D. I think I can use the shape of the pantry in sena's recent post (21:23)--I also like the plan. And, YES! I DO LOVE GW for the amazing creativity, experiences shared, as well as eye to function that everyone has. In a few short days, we've covered many more iterations/variations of kitchen for my space than I've thought about for over a year! And, that is truly wonderful. My next Q to all you who are still reading: DO ANY OF YOU HAVE A DW/SINK relationship such as the one drawn in Sena's 21:23? (With the sink 90* to the DW)? I've never had this (which is why I've been stuck on a corner something). How does it work, as an efficiency thing?

Rosa, I'm probably missing something or just don't understand, but if you are going to use the placement you show above, is it really faster to do it as a 9to4? Why not just do the white and snowflake sections as sashing? I'm pretty sure the quilter who used red as the center square in her 9to4 was Bozogardener. But I think she used the more typical layout and after cutting the 9 patch placed 2 of the reds point-to-point. I could be wrong because it was a while ago. I remember it because that thread inspired me to try one! Whatever you choose to do, it's a fun pattern and I'm sure you'll like using it. Kate