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The frog was too sick to make it. He died this morning and I had a small, private funeral for him. I put him in some electrolyte water sunday and left him in it for the day and night so he would get some of the vitamins in it. He seemed to breathe still sunday afternoon but then he breathed less and his eyes got cloudy either sunday night or monday morning. Thanks for your advice.

I am a new member of this forum. I have really enjoyed looking at the terrariums linked on these pages. The info regarding certain harder-to-keep varieties of plants has also been helpful. When I read this thread, I felt that I had to reply. PDF's are not hard to keep. There are 10 year old children in my neighborhood who are successfully maintaining a vivarium with the frogs, and even breeding the frogs. Personally, I have over 50 vivariums in my home. Each one contains some poison dart frogs. Any and every color you can imagine. Orchids, bromeliads, tropical mosses, waterfalls, you name it. I really like the terrariums, but when you add a pair of bright, electric blue frogs, now you have some life!! Yes, you do have to culture, or purchase, the fruit flies. The flies we use in the hobby cannot fly. They are non-invasive and very easy to culture. They do not smell either. I have 200 cultures going at a time, there is a slight smell with this many cultures, but most visitors to our frog rooms do not even notice it. Mixing the frogs and plants to create vivariums has been the most rewarding journey of my life. I encourage everyone, not to base your opinions of keeping PDF's based on heresay, or an experience of a friend from 10 years ago. The hobby has changed drastically over the last decade. The frogs are easy to obtain, and there is soooo much info on keeping these precious little gems. Remember, everyone starts with no experience. Please fell free to email with any questions. I live in the Chicago suburbs. Pete

I'm surprised to hear your advice on repotting the plants since I had spoken to a few others and the consensus would be that repotting right now might stress out this plant to the point where it wouldn't be able to recover (though it might already be there). Actually that's a position I often take, but I think the fact it's highly unlikely the plant will remain viable for another year if it's not repotted. My reasoning is, NOT repotting it at this point would almost certainly seal the plant's fate, but repotting it offers at least a fighting chance. My experience is, if there is an advanced case of root rot,. the plant is going to succumb to it regardless of what you do. If an advanced case of root rot is not in play, the plant should pull through. I'd be interested in following the method that would create the best chance for this FLF, which sounds like it would be repotting in the very well-draining medium, What would this medium be, like just sphagnum moss or a soil mixture? I have MG indoor plant soil, peat moss, perlite, and compost on hand but am open to getting whatever you recommend! Thanks again, really appreciate the response. The medium would look like this: The thing is, though, you don't have time to be searching for pine bark. You either have it immediately available, or you don't. I think this is something that requires immediate attention, so if you can't find an appropriate bark product, plan B looks like using a bagged medium with some extra perlite in the soil near the bottom of the pot ans something for ballast in the bottom of the pot. You would bare-root the plant. prune off any rotten roots, and repot into fresh soil. After repotting, you would check moisture levels deep in the pot with a wooden tell made from a dowel rod, and start fertilizing when it starts pushing new growth. Let me know your thoughts. If you intend to look for pine bark, it will often be sold as 'pine bark mulch', 'clay soil conditioner', or 'soil conditioner', though I've seen it called other things. You'll also need some coarse perlite and a small bale (1 cu ft) of sphagnum peat moss.. You could make anything that looks like the bark at 12, 3, 6, 9 o'clock work. The medium in the middle is dry 5:1:1 mix. I forgot to ask where you live? Not looking for an address - I mean just generally. Al (Alan)