So here's how they look from further back... which is why I mistakenly said they looked fine. It's been chilly here (to me... not to anyone else) for the past couple days, so I've stayed in the house and done "house things." Today, I went out there and took these pics: And here we have close-ups of some examples of what I'm seeing happening. Also, I've noticed the new leaves seem stunted. They don't grow very big before they either stop growing or fall off. Misshapen leaves, 'browning out'... Hard to really tell in this picture, but the leaf in the center is sorta 'browning out.' If this was a fancy goldfish, I'd say this one has 'dropsy.' Some weird new-growth habit, among other things. More brown spots, plus white spots. At the edge of the pot, you can see the leaves are dying here and there. This is an attempt at a close-up of one of the worst ones. Small leaves that fall off if you even touch them. Another particularly affected plant. The first sign of a problem on a previously robust plant. I don't know what the problem is, but it's obviously contagious. I'm going to have to pull all of this out, dump the brand new potting media into the trash, wash and sterilize the pots, wait for some undetermined length of time, then replace it all. Super bummer. I only hope that whatever it is doesn't spread to things that AREN'T Coleus.

I am not Joe but yes, Agnes is a rugosa. I think it was either Paul or John who posted her here years ago and she was so beautiful, just took my breath away. Oh, to be able to grow rugosas without the associated problems of growing roses in Bugville located only a few feet away from Fungusville.

Ah, no need for apology. We all appreciate your gorgeous photos Joe. I say post more. Here :) Janelle

Shane-it is 'to each their own'.There are some wonderful people in the forum and I really enjoyed their company and input. I am sure the forum would have been a great success if it had been started by anyone other than the present owner. If you are a male you will probably be okay-blatant misogyny means women are tolerated only to a certain degree. The above statements are my opinion only-take it as you find it. I had all my rose scans in the database there but withdrew them in protest at what I considered an underhanded nasty act by the webmaster. The webmaster then banned me. I had the option of returning if I was a good little girl but I declined. I have records of what transpired but will not make them public. regards sandie