It's a great variety George and I'm glad you shared it with me so I could have my seed producers do the seed saving, and I could offer it to others elsewhere and I did send it for trial to a couple of places I think, fingers crossed. Carolyn, who just checked Tania's site but no listing for it yet. It almost always taked a few years from when someone commercial can up th eseed production and offer a variety.

david, I was in NO way insinuating that YOU were posting false or unverified information, and I sincerely apologize if that is the way you took my post. Not what I meant at all! I was just so horrified by some of the comments on that thread. I probably should not have posted at all, especially when I was so upset about it I have admittedly not read a lot about the Annie's situation, but I did see some other information posted elsewhere, again alluding to fraudulent and unethical behavior, and it was a kind of "I head that an employee said...." type of thing. Again, no source for where this info was coming from, and working with the public, I can't tell you how many times a day I hear people say things like "I saw on facebook/tiktok/instagram that so-and-so is happening" when whatever it is they are talking about is either just plain false or wildly exaggerated or changed from the original kernel of truth. And I see this happen, and others feed off it - whether it's outrage, disbelief, excitement - they react to this information as if it's gospel truth, without once thinking of the source. Perhaps it's my media/communications background, where we were always told to consider the source, but it just seems that so much of the nonsense going on in our world is based on this blind acceptance of information - it's gullibility, to be honest. For example, just today I was listening to a report about people in NC who thought the government was bulldozing a town, bodies and all. I heard interviews with some locals who were quite angry and adamant that this was true. The local authorities were just as adamantly trying to inform their citizens that this was not true (link) and not to listen to social media. Here is a Snopes article about it. And when you give someone an anonymous pulpit online, the hate just comes out. As PM2 said of her own experience, I too - and probably most of us - have never heard this kind of talk "in person". It just saddens me that so many people are so hate-filled, and that it takes so little to bring that hate to the surface. Feeling grief, anger, taking offense, feeling ripped off, feeling mistreated, feeling un- or undervalued - these are ALL valid feelings, all human and normal reactions to situations. Telling someone to go die in a fire, or posting death threats or threats of physical and sexual violence? NOT OK. PM2, how do we help? We get off our asses, out from in front of our computers, off of social media, and we go out into the community and volunteer. We help our neighbors. We advocate. We speak up. We become activists. We get involved. We write our legislators. We become legislators. We do what we can. Like I said, I probably should not have even posted.... LOL and I probably shouldn't have answered with this post either! Likely just digging a deeper hole... david, thank you for those links. I appreciate them and will go read more, since as I said I have not seen any actual *news* about this, but only stuff on forums. And again, as I said, there may well be criminal and unethical things here - I know just the fact that gift cards are not being honored is both criminal and unethical - but I like to see some evidence before making a judgment. And I wish not only that others would not rush to judgment, but I also truly wish there were not so much hatred in this world. Dee

I had read from multiple users that there was a glitch or something a few days ago causing many posts not to show at all. Maybe your issue is resolved now too?

Adorable photos. Great news about the puppies adoptions, thinking good thoughts that Meadow finds her forever home very soon.