Tomatoes too small
bltzkrig
12 years ago
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Comments (16)Kristy, I knew when I told you that you needed bigger cages that all we had to do was wait, and you'd see why I said that. It always amazes me how gigantic tomato plants get each year and they do it in only a few short months. Without knowing if the tomatoes are 100% green when picked or if they had reached the breaker stage, it is hard to know how to answer this question, but I'll try. Research has shown that you can pick green tomatoes when they are at the breaker stage and you can ripen them indoors and they'll taste just as good (or, at least, almost as good) as those that are vine-ripened. The breaker stage is that stage at which they are just starting to have the slightest hint of a non-green color, often it is sort of pinkish-white or a yellowish-white, but it depends on the variety. If you pick them while they are too green and have not yet reached the breaker stage, they won't ripen naturally. If you pick them while they are too green and are not going to turn ripe naturally no matter what, sometimes you might be able to 'force' them into ripening by putting an apple into the brown bag with them. The apple gives off ethylene gas that speeds up their ripening. So, I think if you pick them once they are at the breaker stage, you can ripen them inside without a huge difference in their flavor. I'd rather let them vine-ripen because I think it gives them a fuller, richer flavor, but they have a perfectly acceptable flavor when picked at the breaker stage. Personally, I just prefer better than "acceptable" flavor....I want outstanding to excellent flavor and you don't always get that with tomatoes ripened indoors after being picked at the breaker stage. It takes experience in watching tomatoes change color to learn what the breaker stage is. So, as a new gardener, one thing you have to be careful about is that you're picking them at the breaker stage and not picking them too soon. For what it is worth, for everyone suffering the endless days of waiting for some greenies to turn to their ripe color, the darn things WILL ripen more quickly inside than they do outside on our 90-100+ days. But, it only works if don't pick them until they've reached the breaker stage. Please note that I could say "turn red", but I just use the words "turn to their ripe color" because a lot of us grow tomatoes that are not red when ripe, but that are other colors including black, pink, yellow, orange, white, purple or bi-colored or tri-colored. There are even some that are green-when-ripe that more or less stay green or turn a yellowish-green or an amber shade with green at the end or in streaks. So, Kristy, if your tomatoes had reached the breaker stage, what you did was not a mistake. If they are not yet at the breaker stage, you might be able to force them to ripen using the apple-in-a-bag trick. If they were picked pre-breaker stage and won't ripen, you can make fried green tomatoes, fried green tomato sandhwhiches or chow-chow (green tomato relish) from them. With some tomato varieties, I think it doesn't much matter if you pick them at the breaker stage, and with other varieties I feel like I definitely can tell the difference in the ones I leave on the vine to ripen. In the overall scheme of things, I might give most breaker-picked tomatoes a "B" on an A=F scale and most vine-ripened ones an "A" or "A+". Since everyone's tastebuds vary, you'll just have to try it different ways and see what works for you and see if you like them better when left on the vine to ripen or when picked at the breaker stage. Sometimes, Kristy, (and I am not above doing this myself) it can be to your advantage to pick the green-breaker ones just before a summer 'cold front' rolls in or during a cool spell. That way, you're removing a portion of the fruit load which encourages the plants, in concert with cooler temperatures, to form more fruit. This is an area in which the whole commercial tomato industry has gotten it wrong for so many years. They pick their tomatoes often before they are at the breaker stage, and they do this because really green tomatoes have a long shipping and shelf life. Then the tomatoes are exposed to certain chemicals that turn them red. However, even though the tomatoes are the correct color, they aren't ripe. So when you eat a red grocery store tomato that has poor flavor, it is because it was artificially reddened, but NOT ripened. Because the tomatoes were picked before the breaker stage, they don't have the full, rich flavor and texture of ripe tomatoes. That's why most grocery store tomatoes taste so bad and have poor texture. I won't even buy a grocery store tomato. I'd rather not have a tomato than to have a bad one. If the commercial growers/shippers, etc., could wait a few more days and pick at the breaker stage instead of when tomatoes are almost to the breaker stage, more of America would have a chance to see what a tomato ought to taste like, but it is unlikely the happen. Dawn...See MoreContainers for Tomatoes, how small is too small?
Comments (15)Beware that the nursery industry lies... Uhhh, gee thanks. :( But, "lies", no. That is an unfair statement. Dry gallons and liquid gallons aren't the same amount. 1 gallon, dry = 1.1636 gallons, liquid So what you are seeing in the nursery industry is a liquid gallon label since that is the U.S. Customary usage but which actually hold the equivalent dry gallon measurement of a dry material like potting soil. A 5 gallon nursery pot will hold 5 gallons of water (if you plug up the drain holes) it just won't hold 5 gallons of potting soil. A 5 gallon paint bucket (liquid) = 4.3 dry gallons. Or approx. 4 dry gallons of soil if not filled to the rim. Dave...See MoreBeefsteak tomatoes are TOO small
Comments (4)As far as I know the tomato plant requires a lot of sunlight. If you don't have at least a good six hours then the plant doesn't produce it's maximum yield. That may be the problem. Everybody else is right in that the plant isn't what you think it is. I've encountered that problem when I bought plants from big box stores instead of a nursery. They don't even keep them watered most of the time. Best of luck....See Moretomatoes are too small
Comments (6)Random, You might try a Feed store if there are any nearby. Alfalfa in pellet form about ten bucks for 50 lbs. Add some molasses and water to make a foliar tea. Use the leftovers as a soil additive. See if they have any spoiled or loose alfalfa hay from broken bales that might be had for free. Get your own compost pile started. Check out the local big box store like Home Depot or Lowes (if they are in your area). Lowes often has garden products discounted late Summer to early Fall. I got bags of Epsom Salts and bottles of fish fertilizer for around a buck each last year. Might not help this year but you can get a start on imroving next years garden. Check out this website for some interesting uses of molasses. The author grows a different "product". But these guys are excellent and informed "gardeners". Good luck. http://www.gardenscure.com/420/organics/95401-molasses-sweet-organic-goodness.html...See Moresacnet
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