Miracle-Gro tomato food once a week?
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What is your take on Miracle Gro for food plants?
Comments (9)C'mon - don't play that card, Preston. It has nothing to do with what route you choose, and everything to do with the absolute statements you made. I could have been blunt and said that because I and others are able to grow perfectly hale plants using MG as their fertilizer of choice, that it definitely IS grower error, but I took a softer approach. The fact is that your reasoning was faulty and your statements incorrect. Pointing that out is not insulting you. If you hadn't made the brash statements, I wouldn't have been inclined to comment. People disagree with me all the time and it usually gets no comment, but when you disagree and use faulty logic and statements you can't support, then you ask for what you put forward to be called into question - I'm sorry if you're offended, but please don't blame me for pointing to the obvious holes in what you said. When you blame MG for your "gardening nightmares" when dozens here are absolutely certain that you can use MG and be completely nightmare free, it's reasonable to assume you're wrong. Instead of blaming me for what you said, you might explain why MG is any more likely than organic forms of N (like blood meal, e.g.) to "make plants grow so fast that the cell walls are too thin, causing the plant to become weak and the insects would start a feast." Again, if you over-fertilize with ANY fertilizer, it's 'grower error', not the fertilizer's fault. The fact is - if you cannot grow perfectly happy/healthy plants with MG it's your problem, not the fertilizer's. If you'll notice, I never questioned your recommendations, allowing you your opinions re product recommendations - even though I strongly disagree with them; but, when you make statements and assumptions that are absolutely, positively false, you're going to hear the other side of the story. If you want to step up to the plate and make a case for what you said, you have the floor. BTW - you added the part about "chemical free fruit" which is another whole issue and not part of what I initially questioned, though I would have because there is no clear evidence on which to base that line of thinking. If you care to reply, please be sure to stick to your original statements and not broaden the topic so it's all-encompassing. Al...See MoreMiracle-Gro Plant Food Question
Comments (8)Tec - if you're going to stick to a Miracle-Gro product, a better choice would be either their 24-8-16 or 12-4-8 formulation. They are both 3:1:2 ratios, and furnish the major nutrients (NPK) in about the same ratio as that in which the average of all plants use them. I do use Foliage-Pro 9-3-6 for several reasons, but chief among them are the facts that it also has Ca and Mg, nutrients missing from most soluble fertilizers, and it doesn't derive it's N from urea, so growth is finer and internodes shorter. Using fertilizers in about the same ratio as plants' usage, is especially important when using heavy soils and watering in sips. Ratios that don't closely mimic plant usage quickly cause nutrient levels in the soil become skewed, and that isn't a desirable condition. Also, when using a soluble fertilizer like those mentioned, you reserve control over what your plants are getting and when they get it. Al...See MoreMiracle-Gro palm food.
Comments (12)Firefightersflame, It might work alright, but keep in mind that with palms, they like a higher nitrogen content, something like a 2-1-1 ratio. And after all they are grown for their foliage and the nitrogen produces beautiful foliage. The fertilizer I use is a 24-8-16 Miracle Gro All Purpose with micronutrients. I water it down to a 12-4-8 ratio and that works great. Once I plant palms in the ground, I use a good granular soil Palm fertilizer. There are afew on the market, but only get one in the 2-1-1 or 12-4-8 ratio with micronutrients. Only apply fertilizer to palms in the spring, summer, and fall, but not in the winter, unless you live in the southern parts of South Florida, because you don't want to encourage tender new growth on your outdoor palms in the winter when a frost or freeze could really nip the new growth. For those of you who have tender tropical palms that may get frost bitten, refer to Florida Extension Service's publication, "Treating Cold Damaged Ornamental Palms". It has excellent recommendations for helping coconut palms, royals, and other cold tender tropicals to recover from a hard freeze! Hint: they need Copper and Boron treatments after a hard freeze, but FOLLOW THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS!...See MoreMiracle Gro tomato fert?
Comments (20)Just a brief note, but the idea that tomatos (or any other plant) use a lot of phosphorus is an outdated myth. I know there are no shortage of fertilizer products with the middle number highest and they are sold to promote blooms, but it just isn't the way plants use nutrients. There is no plant on the planet that I am aware of that uses more P than it does N and K which makes high P fertilizers pointless at best and an environmental pollutant at worst (lots of products are now being advertised as phosphate free due to the high levels of phosphates being found in the water/ground). Anyway, here is a link that discusses plant nutrition full of citations from a university source. About halfway down are tables showing the actual ratio veggies use the major and secondary nutrients in. You will notice there isn't a single plant that uses much P compared to N and K. Here is a link that might be useful: this is what I am rambling about...See Moreindiana_veggies
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