For Trade: grafted jackfruit and sugar apple

13 years ago

Hi

Wondering if anyone interested in my grafted jack and sugar apple. They both came from mimosa in la. Bought them(about week ago) without knowing much since i'm fairly new to the hobby. Would like to trade for a mango plant or??? before they end up dead.lol. The sugar apple is not looking good but Mr. G of Mimosa told me they are like that at this time of year. Jack is looking great so far.

regards

David

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tropicaliste
13 years ago
Why don't you try reviving the two that you have, I mean you will probably want that Jack and Sugar once the hobby really sets in anyway... lol
What're your plant interests?

:)
dnt72800
Original Author
13 years ago
I thought about it....but i don't think i have/gain patient/skill to get them to fruit here after reading all the threads.
So far i killed 2 wax jambu, 1 guava, 1 nam doc mai mango, 1 persimmon, and at the moment half dead longan, lychee, wax jambu(new). Very disappinting.
I'm interested in any asian type mango/fruit tree, whatever's out there.
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Oh so you're in Hawaii and have land to grow all those wonderful tropical fruits? Thank you for making me feel like my life sucks :-p As for what you're saying. It depends on the kind of tree. The don't-use-seedlings rule is from our TEMPERATE world, so don't assume it applies with all the tropical trees. And even with temperate trees, apparently peaches and apricots are likely to taste good from seedlings. Like, I could definitely see lychees having a good probability of tasting good from seed. And I'm pretty sure papaya doesn't even really change in taste that much from seedling to seedling. Do they even graft papaya? That would seem to be a weird tree to graft. It's more like a really tall vegetable plant than a tree - it doesn't have any real hardwood for a while. Anyway, I would stick with grafting just for the earlier harvest. Are the trees you're buying really that expensive? I bought some relatively large trees last year, and it was $85 INCLUDING shipping. That really is NOT a lot. The dollar has been getting weaker and weaker, remember, plus fruit is kinda expensive. If you don't want to spend the money, then why not graft onto seedlings yourself? They say any fool can graft. And surely in hawaii there must be a good number of people who could give/sell you scions. Anyway, don't just stick with the usual tropicals. Grow DURIAN! Truly an exquisite gourmet treat. I love 'em and I've only had the ones shipped frozen to New York City! Also there's mangosteen. And apparently there's a bajillion other tropical fruits you could grow. Jackfruit is delicious, and the sugar-apple trees are usually tasty - I find the tastiest is atemoya. There's sapodilla, and passionfruit. There's miracle bush, which takes away your ability to taste sour. and apparently there's a fruit that tastes like peanut butter. Oh man.... If I had land in Hawaii to grow fruits, I'd be having a ball!
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#1 choice around there: The Treehouse Nursery in pine island (Bokeelia). Here is a little story of how they got started (from breeze newspapers): Back in 1976, Bob and Vivian Murray started Treehouse Nursery with a mango grove in Bokeelia. Their daughter Lianne Murray and granddaughter Allisyn Ramirez along with her husband Mario have recently restarted the business. Although Allisyn is a critical care registered nurse and Lianne an intensive care registered nurse, the women decided to forego those careers in order to preserve the family business. Being nurses, they enjoy the health benefits of the fruit and the opportunity to spend time outdoors in nature. Both women have fond early memories of the business. Lianne learned tree grafting in Miami when she was only 14. She is now teaching her daughter and son-in-law the technique. The nursery boasts in excess of 50 varieties of tropical fruits, spices and fruit and flowering trees sold at retail and wholesale including 20 types of lychees and longans and 30 of mangos. One of these, the Bailey's marvel mango, originated on Pine Island. Other fruits on the 12-acre property are Surinam cherries, persimmons, mamey sapotes, sugar apples and canistel or egg fruit. "Pine Island being on the gulf is the perfect climate for the less hardy of these," Murray said. "Inland it is too cold." The women have made preserves and dried fruit in the past and plan to do so again. According to Murray, the dried product can be kept for two or three years in the refrigerator. The Treehouse Nursery is located at 6330 Hubbard Road off Harbor Drive in Bokeelia. It is open to the public from 9 a.m. to 5 p.m., Monday through Friday, and 9 a.m. to 4 p.m. Saturdays. For more information, call (239) 283-3688. Adiel
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Keiki.....I don't know much, but from reading about it. It's a natural hybrid between a jack fruit and a chempdak(both in the same family). Jacks are large fruits, crunchy flesh, latex laden and hard to separate the bulbs/flesh from the rags( the unedible part of a jack fruit). The chempdak is the total opposite, smaller, longish fruits of almost even shape. Plus you can pull all the pulp off with the stem in a single pull after you open up the fruit. But does have softer flesh, though are even better tasting than the soft flesh jacks. The hybrid is smaller than a jack fruit in size, but have quality of both parent fruits and is more cold hardy than a chempdak. Chempdak are too tropical, even for S. Florida, unless you have a nice size green house or plan to grow in a large forever pot and move in and out. But that doesn't mean you can't try and grow one, but might never fruit though? I don't really know how cold hardy a Cheena/nangkadak is, but I'm sure you have a lot better chances of keeping it alive and might even fruit for you over there. I think Cheena plants are for sale over there too from Excalibur nursery? About chempedak http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artocarpus_integer Below is a link that tells a bit about Cheena fruits Let me know, what you think about it? Here is a link that might be useful: cheena
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quebolausa
13 years ago
Why not figure out what your doing wrong?
nullzero
13 years ago
Dnt72800,

I have a good friend that would be interested in a trade. Is there an email or number he can reach you at? He lives in Los Angeles area.

BTW, on the plant front. Don't give up yet, it can be discouraging at first... I suggest to start off with easy to grow low maintenance plants like Prickly Pear or Pomegranate (if you are solely looking for edible plants). Then you can work your way up to the more demanding plants.

I have been doing this for close to 4 years. I still loose the occasional plant.
dnt72800
Original Author
13 years ago
@quebolausa
The cold winter and my wet soil/over water was the cause. Mr. G from mimosa advice me to take it easy on the hose. We talked for hours regarding my problems. Very nice guy.
As for the jack and sugar apple, i don't think they will ever fruit under my care.
@Nullzero
hank you for your advice. you/friend can reach me at 310 951 1022. I'm in Torrance.
cheers
tropicaliste
13 years ago
Sometimes the information can seem like a bit overwhelming, but keep at it and keep it simple or you will probably give up or get tired and do something else, lol.

As nullzero said, try something that is not so high-maintenance at first so you gain confidence, or try to grow from seeds... those seem to be more hardy...

Seems like you have the kind of zone that would really give you fruit which is a big help, but you should try to figure out whether it's a humidity issue or a soil issue or something and work on that.

:)
nullzero
13 years ago
dnt,

Thanks, he probably will contact you soon. You are near my area, I living in hermosa. My main container garden is down in Mission Viejo though. Torrance, has a great growing climate for just about anything.
James-hoon
13 years ago
If sugar apple would survive in my area I would trade with you in heart beat. Where I live some night it goes down under 30 degree and get couple frost each winter. I also once killed mango num doc mai from water too much and transplant a little to early (fall). I talked to a guy who know a lot of tropical fruit and he recommended me cherimoya instead which I bought from him.
nullzero
13 years ago
James,

I agree with going with the Cherimoya, instead of growing Sugar Apple. Sugar Apple does not like it colder then 40 degrees. The Cherimoya, however is cold hardy down to the upper 20s.
dnt72800
Original Author
13 years ago
Thank You Guys...
I traded my jack for a selma cherimoya. Now i have one Dr. white, 1 selma, and two atemoyas.
May i ask why mimosa would recommend atemoya over cherimoya?. Something like smaller habit, easier to fruit, and better tasting etc..??
Thanks Nullzero...Your friend is really nice.

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