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burwoodbelle
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Killing Hackberry Trees organically?
Comments (16)Nothing like an everlasting thread--and a notification of posts made many years ago. Thought I answered kimmsr's post many years ago. Black plastic is TEMPORARY, as is the disruption of organic activity in the soil below it. Earthworms, insects, etc., are MOBILE, and all have the ability to remove themselves from the area covered by the black plastic. Everything will return to normal once you've kiiled the tree roots and REMOVED the plastic. Newspaper is NIGHT AND DAY, compared to black plastic, regarding the heat-generating ability required to kill the roots. Don't like plastic because it comes from non-renewable sources, as kimmsr declares? Use organic black plastic, made from plants. Plastics from plants will soon become all the rage, again, as the concept was YEARS ago (1940) when Henry Ford made an entire CAR from plant-origin plastics. Google "Henry Ford's plastic car". And plastic from plants are now on the market, and will become more so as we transition from fossil fuels. But common sense tells me there's no harm in temporarily placing ANY black plastic of a moderate size over the area required to kill a tree's roots. Again, (notwithstanding Steve Eubanks post about trees that cannot be covered with plastic because of other infrastructure in place, such as fences, etc.) when black plastic CAN be put in place, the heat it generates should be sufficient to kill most any plant material, including roots, beneath it. Regarding Brian Schill's latest post: It would be best if the entire tree can be cut to the ground and then the GROUND covered with black plastic, held down by staples and/or soil. I couldn't guess the amount of time required when wrapping protruding stumps with plastic....See MoreHackberry Tree
Comments (15)crystlmt, you asked how long a tree's stump will take to grow new trunks. I do not know know of any other tree that will do from their stumps what I have seen a Hackberry stump do. back not quite a decade ago, I purchased a just over half acre residential lot that backed up to farmer's field. Seems that all the land for the housing addition had been sold by that farmer, but the developer had left the farmer's barbed wire fence along that edge of the by then 6 year old neigborhood. Along that fence row there was a large beautiful elm tree that dripped sticky stuff from an insect infestation, a diseased and nearly dead cherry tree, and 5 or more scraggly looking hackberry trees. In additon all those 5 hackberry trees had suckers that had grown from their shallow roots and formed thickets. It was one of those 5 hackberry trees, which at one time had been cut down, but the stump that had been left and not killed, had grown 5 different trunks straight up out of the top table where that 2 foot wide stump had been left unattended. It was the strangest thing I have ever seen. 5 perfectly round trunks growing straight up out of the stump, and by the time I encountered them, they had all gained enough girth to fill in any gaps that once may have existed between them, so the 5 individual trunks filled what had orginally been the entire top surface of the stump. By the time I encounter that tree those 5 trunks were about 15 feet tall and the single stump that they had grown out of was about 2 feet tall. The view all those trees presented along the entire back property line was a real eye sore, so I ended up cutting all the trees down and paying to have all the stumps ground up. Then in the following early spring I planted Oaks, hollies, and pecan trees. These trees did well and did not suffer from any toxins that those hackberry trees may have contributed to the soil. The property was deep enough that in the previous early fall season, I could plant a row of staggered spaced loblolly evergreens about 15 feet in front of what would later be my more quality, slower growing hardwood trees planting. That way I had the benefit of a lovely view as the loblolly trees grew fast, and knew that in about 20 years the loblolly trees would have shed enough of their lower branches for the hardwoods to be seen, and even later in about 25 to 30 years when the loblolly trees aged enough and needed to be removed, than the hardwoods would have matured to nice heights and forms. Over the 5 years that we kept that property the loblolly trees did grow to look very beautiful. with branches growing out of the trunk down to the ground. the young hardwoods growing far enough away and in back of the Loblolly trees could not be seen form the front of the property, but during that 5 years they had become very well established and were gaining more and more optimal height growth each year. Last year we ended up selling that property. I hated to leave my trees, but they served well to contribute aome nice asthetics that greatly helped to motivated the buyers to make that purchase from us....See MoreIs this a hackberry tree?
Comments (10)I really appreciate all the help you have provided. I see now that it is definitely not a hackberry tree. But if it is not too off topic to continue this I would be interested to know if it is a hickory, etc. SO here is a new picture, the leaf on the left is a black walnut, the one in the middle is the same as the picture above, the photo on the right is another mystery tree. Here is what I have always thought were elms ... the one on the left was a slippery elm and the one on the right was an American elm ??? The reason I am asking about hackberries is that since I started putting out fruit I now have lots of hackberries and I am curious if the host plant is something in my yard so I've been looking closer at some of the trees that I've never bothered to identify. Thanks again for all the help!...See MoreHackberry tree mess!
Comments (2)Thanks for your reply. It probably is and it's on everything. My tomatoes are sick and they probably won't make. I'm happy it's the fall growing season and can plant new vegies....See Morebigorangevol
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