Pink Brandywine Sudduth Strain vs. OTV
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Comments (9)I planted one of each, and so far the Cow Licks plant is about twice the size of the Suddeth plant. Tne Cow Licks tomatoes are also much bigger than the Sudduth, but neither plant has any ripe tomatoes on it yet so I can't comment on the taste. I also planted a plant from seed just labeled Brandywine, and it evidently is the red variety because the tomatoes are medium sized, red, and taste like a supermarket tomato. I also planted a pink Brandywine, and it is making large tomatoes with good taste, but not as good as a Marianna's Peace or Cherokee Purple or Nygamous or Carbon....See MoreWhich Brandywine strain from Tomato Grower's Supply?
Comments (13)yummy, I agree with 6-8 weeks as noted above, but since I don't know how you grow your transplants nor how fast they'll grow I'll just add that I like to set out ones that are about 6-9 inches tall. As to the question about what constitutes a Brandywine, one first has to think of the three known family ones which are: Yellow Brandywine Red Brandywine Brandywine ......and there's no known relationship between the three of them. If you look in any SSE YEarbook you can see many listings for Brandywine this or that, meaning, Glick's, Pawers and on and on. And just as with the various Mortgage Lifters they usually indicate the name of the person who grew a Brandywine or Mortgatge Lifter and attached their name to it. And then there's the amusing part of it. There's one called Brandywine (Pawers), which is the result of a typo that's persisted since it was Roger Wentling of PA who listed it and his SSE code would then be PA WE R, just as mine from NYS state would be NY MA C. When Brandywine has been part of a natural cross and then a selection from that hybrid taken out to the OP state then sometimes Brandywine becomes part of the name such as Liam's one or the OTV one. If you want to know more about the history of various brandywines, pure ones or others, I suggest you go to Victory Seeds and read the article written by Craig LeHoullier. He did the family ones and I did the others and the article needs updating but both of us have had other priorities in getting around to doing that. Hope that helps. Carolyn...See MoreBrandywine red or otv?
Comments (13)jtmac, Yes, now Mike at Victory Seeds has the correct one but he too was offering a PL one and ASAP removed it when he knew it was a wrong variety. I gave the link to Tania's page for Red Brandywine above, and as I recall she goes into the wrong RB's there and also lists places where the correct one can be found. I've tried so hard to convince Linda at TGS to retitle, or do something about the two wrong RB's she lists, but she said many folks do like them so she hasn't changed anything. But then went to the Landis Museum to get a correct one, but then said it was a strain, but it isn't, there are no strains of RB. Tom Hauch of Heirloom Seeds in PA was the first to get RB out of the SSE Yearbook and he sent seeds to Steve Miller at Landis and Tom still considers his RB to be his signature variety. Several years ago he sent me his seeds for RB and I used them plus the RB seeds I had gotten from an SSE freend many years ago and the plants and fruits were identical. Carolyn...See MoreBrandywine Sudduth - Overrated?
Comments (33)I must have posted this dozens of times but here it is again: I was fortunate to discover Brandywine Pink through the old Seed Savers catalogue when this variety was first introduced. Back then there was only one Brandywine (pink, Sudduth, Quisenberry). Today quite a few seed companies and especially transplants sold by Garden Centers offer inferior strains of Brandywine so the first thing you have to make sure is to get the true Sudduth (also called Quisenberry) strain, e.g. from Johnny's of Maine, quote: Around 1980 a Mrs. Sudduth of Tennessee gave seeds said to be in her family for 100 years, to tomato seedsman, Ben Quisenberry of Ohio. This is a strain that Craig LeHoullier believes is of the original Brandywine (end of quote). I grew Brandywine Pink next to my old favorites and immediately became convinced that Brandywine was by far the best tomato I have ever tasted. This opinion has not changed in nearly 20 years comparing Brandywine Pink to over 100 other taste champions, although Marianna's Peace recently introduced by TomatoFest comes close to or even matches Brandywine Sudduth in taste. I guess what I am trying to say is that I am a big Brandywine Sudduth fan, by the way not only due to the wonderful flavor but also due to the truly unique mouth watering texture of a vine-ripened Brandywine. I also grew Brandywine Red Landis strain and this is a different animal altogether. While the Landis strain is quite nice neither taste nor texture match Brandywine Pink Sudduth strain. As experienced Brandywine Pink growers know, this variety does not set fruits in hot weather (possibly due to defective blossoms or split calyces as was pointed out on this forum by Carolyn and I think Craig), even here in Southern CTs zone 5. As VP International I had to travel and live in different parts of North America and Europe. I grew Brandywine in Northern Germany, Dublin/Ireland and Northern Italy. As Brandywine is a late season variety, starting the plants early and getting them into the ground early was absolutely necessary in Germany and Ireland and is also important here in CT. I use efficient Metal Halide grow lights and cool basement conditions which gives me sturdy stocky plants. It allows me to start Brandywine 9 weeks before setting them into the ground. I plant well established, hardened, stocky plants out in early /mid May depending on the weather conditions and go out of my way to protect them against cold temperatures. I noticed that Brandywine did really well in the lower sun intensity countries so while my other tomatoes are planted in full sun, Brandywine does best in an area where high trees block the summer sun around lunchtime. However, you will also get good yield if you follow these rules: Most gardeners are growing tomatoes in far too rich soil or over-fertilized soil and often use too much fresh compost. Carolyn Male, author of "100 Heirloom Tomatoes for the American Garden" said it best, quote: The result of using compost in the planting hole and added to the soil and using too much fertilizer and too many amendments is that plants are stressed by growing too fast and the stress helps induce blossom end rot and also makes the plants far more susceptible to various diseases (end of quote). Over-fertilized soil prevents early fruit set. Add to that the fact that Brandywine does not set fruit in hot weather and what do you get: Disappointing yields. By observing the above mentioned suggestions: 1. Start early 2. Grow the plants in soil that has been fertilized the year before 3. Try to provide some shade during hot summer month you will get good yields. I foliar feed with a marine brown algae extract and water once with a stinging nettle manure tea after first fruit set. This procedure is repeated when the first fruits start to turn pink and after the first significant harvest. While tomatoes are ripening I will side dress sparingly with a high potash natural fertilizer blend based on sunflower, rapeseed and soybean meal together with kelp meal, lignite, rock phosphate and mined sulphate of potash or greensand. The ratio is N:P:K 5:4:8. ThatÂs it. Follow these instructions and you will be astonished about the yield increase of Brandywine Sudduth strain. And if you have never grown Brandywine, get ready for a treat....See Morerobinava
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