Yeah, the thing I've noticed about this spam is what Anntn6b said. For instance, I was talking about dvds in the Roses Forum Off-Topic Conversations area, then after that, I noticed dvd spam showing up. Then I noticed after harryshoe started a thread--all of a sudden we started getting shoe spam. At least that's what I think might have started this onslaught of shoe spam, because that's when I noticed it starting. Sheesh--not liking this spam. I have dial-up and am very busy on top of that. I don't have the precious time nor patience to be trying to notify ivillage about this spam--if I can even get on here without waiting for what seems like forever for the threads to load. I do what karl_bapst_rosenut does--which is use that fancy scroll feature that allows me to quickly scroll past these spam posts. :P Debbie

I use Yahoo mail, and all my mail from GW ended up in the inbox except the first ones from CindeeA and Laura1. Those two ended up in my bulk folder. The ones they sent after that came to my inbox. I'm pretty sure that I have gotten every message sent because no one has told me I have mail that isn't there. I sent Kat an email that she didn't get, but she sent me one just fine. I guess that's why it's good to give folks a heads up that they have mail coming. That way we know if it is working or not. Also because I can be a bit absent minded I save all my emails to a text file until I know it was recieved. That way if I have to retype it I don't forget what I wrote in the first place =) Tim

It's very hard to absorb how many parents, esp moms, are hated by their grown kids. We think they will outgrow it when they move beyond their teen years. But more and more are unwilling to honestly discuss their issues with their parents. Most of us remember the dignity and respect we gave to our own parents, no matter how imperfect and often abusive they were to us. We looked in on and called them because we still showed respect for our elders, especially our own parents. What happened? Many (not all) of young adults feel entitled - entitled to everything we have, despite it taking a lifetime of work and saving up for what we have and what we've built. They get resentful and angry if we don't keep giving. They INVENT reasons to hate us - which is another reason they can't communicate with us. They don't know exactly why they hate us. The key is that most of us parents have not done anything bad to our kids. They don't want to 'talk about it' because there isn't anything to nail us with. Sometimes we can figure out the reason(s), but a lot of times, we have absolutely no clue. It's like they woke up one day and decided to hate Mom (or Dad, brother or sister, whoever) for the rest of their lives, amen, no reason need be given. Two of our daughters, the sweetest little girls, grew into extremely independent teens who eventually, one at 14 and the other at 25, despised the very breath I breathed. Nothing I could say or do could reach them. Yes, we tried offering psychologists to them, and one is still in therapy 15 yrs later (not getting anywhere). So far, it's been almost 2 decades of their growing, venom-dripping hatred towards me. Our son adores me and he is the only one with children. I had to let go and let God. There was no other choice I had. It takes two to communicate, two in a relationship, two to share, give and understand. One cannot do it alone. I lost my own dignity by spending so much time begging, pleading with them, "Why?" I no longer will stoop to that level. Now I am sick, bedridden, and my husband is pained to see me without our daughters in our lives. He has no idea what happened to them either. We had to let them go. Yet every day, every day, it feels as if I am stabbed in my heart by them. I still remember them as sweet innocent little girls who loved mommy. Unfortunately, we are seeing more of what is like an epidemic of selfish, snobbish, disrespectful children who grow into that kind of an adult. I truly believe it is the influence of the self absorbed people in entertainment and in the world around us, as well as fulfillment of Bible prophecies. (No, I won't be Bible thumping but if you would like to know the precise scriptures that foretell children hating their parents, then PM me.) Until then, we have hope as parents that our grown children will somehow, some day, return to us. That hope never dies, does it? No matter how badly they've hurt us, we still hope. ~peace, and love to all

Always move them to your junk mail folder do not just delete them that is how your email program learns what is junk. Also it is not advised to click on the unsubscribe me because in actuality that lets them know it is a good valid email address and one that more spam can be sent to. In most email programs you can set up extra filters other than the standard ones that come programed in. That would be in the program settings and options. Hotmail has a sweep feature that if you get one email from a specific address you can tell it to send all future emails from them to a specific location including the junk mail folder. I don't know about aol. Of course the number one way that your email address gets on the spammers list is by being on forwarded emails, so always remove the names and addresses before forwarding and use the BCC feature to hide all email addresses on the email.