hey denny ... we are here just to trade opinion.. yes???? .. never take anything personally ... and NEVER read between my lines... sometimes in my quest for brevity and concise answers .. i seem to be 'bitter' or angry ... that is NEVER intended ... but i agree it sometimes 'seems' such ... i think its more a caffeine thing.. but mid winter blues really doesnt help .... money is tight everywhere ... all i MEANT to point out.. is that if uncle rich is new and $45 ... and zounds is $9 because its old.. and they look the same.. why pay for a new car every year.. when the old one will work just as well ... and ALWAYS presume.. there are two audiences ... those of us on the cutting edge.. and the newbies ... newbies need to know.. there are historical hosta out there.. and they are available... and they are cheaper most times... and frankly ... some are way better than the carp coming out now .... THAT IS WHY THEY ARE STILL AROUND.... they are the workhorses of the garden ... the driveway hosta .... whether or not URich will be around in 5 years is to be seen ... we know zounds has been around for 20 years .... that ought to tell you something ... take care ken

Texas.. We really had a wonderful time and I always look forward to heading back to Southern California . The great friends that i just made are priceless, but the ones that I already have there are treasures!! Never to be replaced... The pure beauty will bring anyone home... I love it there!! ;-) Chuy.. You are so lucky to live so close to Costa . A beautiful, place with wonderful friends.. So lucky!! We had a trip to always remember ....truly a trip to remember. I would have loved to have met you ! Totally agree with you Peg, it was a tip to remember. Always!!! I'm so glad to have been able to share it with you!! ;-). Makes me happy inside to share the awesome people and for you to see how warm hearted , lovely people they are... Roxanne... You are a shining light... We will always have awesome memories because of you. A new and wonderful friendship between us as well as with some of your guest. Truly a gift from above!!! Mahalo!!! George. Thank you for taking good care of us at the open house. You truly went above and beyond . Thank you so much for all that you did for us.. We really appreciate everything!!! You are the best as well!!! Thank you Bill.. You truly made us feel warm and welcome and I appreciate all that you did for us. I know Bud wasn't feeling up to par, but he was a trooper to go out with us on the boat ride as well as to dinner. I keep thinking about those " fish and chips". They truly were the best that I have ever had!!! I'm glad we listened to you... Great selection for dinner... Hearing what you said about what Bud said on the ride home means more to me than anything. He is a very special gentleman and I cherish our friendship. There isn't anything that is more important to me than to have the respect from a gentleman like Bud. Truly , he is one of a kind. You made my day to read this... I am so touched... Thank you!!! Tell sherry that I have some Texas Stars that I will send to her!! No worries about seeds, so the " hot" plants already have the questionable leaves... Just what you need in your yard ! LMAO!!!!! HA!!!! You are a very special friend as well. . You and sherry are the best and I always enjoy your company. Brad sends his best and says " hello " to you all.. Maybe next time he will head out with me! Maybe he can go down to the pier while I do the Plumeria thing!!! ;-). I will always enjoy heading out to California.!!! James.. Again.. Thinking of you and wanted to let you know everything Is potted up. Mahalo... You are so kind and I thank you for all that you do ! Jen... I showed the picture that you sent to me on my cell to show Bud at dinner. He loved it!!! He loved the colors and was proud to know it was growing well in Texas! ;-) Doug.. Was that me sitting behind you?? Were you the one who was winning all of those raffles?.. Lol!!! Next time .... Roxanne.. An annual get together would be so much fun!!! Love it!! ;-) That greenhouse was like an oven... Lol You had to get outside and take a break, but them you see something else on the opposite area and you crisscross over to another greenhouse. Lol Talking hot? OMG. Johns little boys selling drinks and hotdogs almost sold me the ice container so I could put it on my head... That's hot!!! Lol!! A wonderful time with awesome friends.. Mahalo!!! This was better than any gift or plants.... Just to be with you all was more than anything I could wish for... Simply the best!!! Laura

I prefer to transplant in early spring. If you do so now and it is flowering it may abort the flowers. If you do so now use b-1 or superthrive to reduce the shock of transplant. Oh, and clay pots are not good for plumerias unless they are glazed because the roots stick to the clay and moisture moves through the clay quickly. If you can find Unigrow cactus mix and get some pumice it is a better mix than palm soil.

Don't feel too badly Ribbit/Rabbit. My AZ garden was a bit of a bummer, too. I didn't get much out of it for all the time I spent on it, but if I plant one down here next winter I'll know to get a LOT more soil amendments and dig them down into the sand below. And direct plant rather than start stuff in containers on the south side of the house. Granny Here is a link that might be useful: Annie's Kitchen Garden