Being able to purchase plants wholesale
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Comments (48)Argh...so many threadlets to address. Kirimarie - I read your posts and obviously your opinions are valid based on your experiences. But, you never addressed what I specifically cited: walk around any average middle to upper income residential section of a randomly selected mid-to-large UK city. Walk around the same in the US. Anyone paying attention will spot huge differences in the amount of effort put into the personal landscapes, on average. It's not like I'm saying something crazy here that has never been said before. My parents aren't into gardens at all - I got the bug from my childhood neighbors who in a strange twist of fate were all avid gardeners. But every time they are in the British Isles they go on about how great the gardens are and my Mom will just take some pictures on a random street of people's gardens brimming with Fuchsia, Choisyas, Lilies, various vines, etc. A friend of mine who is also not at all into gardens went to Ireland with her erstwhile fiance and both said the gardens there were absolutely amazing. I'm sure they didn't visit botanical gardens, and by amazing they weren't talking about the fact there's a Phoenix canariensis in Cork. They were just talking about the gardens they saw in neighborhoods that were on their way to someplace. "I think the whole UK are "better" gardeners point of view is nonsense. " When you clearly spend more time at something, the world usually rewards you with the accolade of being "better" at it. The only scintilla of unfairness in what I say might be that, obviously, the climate makes it easier for the English to have the sort of gardens that they do than it is for most in the US. But that isn't to say it can't be done. I've visited private gardens in PA that are every bit as impressive as any I know of in England...(on a per unit land basis, of course...you can't really compete with Sissinghurst when your entire spread is the size of one walled garden there) but they might well be more work in PA. Doesn't have to be someplace moist: I once spent about an hour walking around the neighborhood near the Denver Botanic garden. I saw a couple very interesting private dry-climate gardens. Employees maybe? Probably just supporters who went to the plant sales. But most were just boring standard landscapes...blue spruce, some bland shrubs, whatever. This climate factor influences US regional differences, obviously, as gardengal noted. The whole west coast seemed a bit more gardenesque to me than the rest of the country, and I especially single out some parts of the Bay Area. Lawns... I agree in the west, the watering of ornamental lawns is absolutely a massive and foolish waste of water resources. (though I've gotten in huge arguments with some westerners about this...not online, in real life!) In the east, over maintained lawns are a different kind of environmental timebomb. Particular in the Chesapeake Bay watershed, where, years too late, the amt. of phosphorus in lawn fertilizer was finally restricted. But this doesn't mean lawns per se are the problem, it's just that people have a pig headed approach to them. I will never water my lawn. In the terrible summers of 2010, 2011, and 2012, it had periods of going brown. Big deal. I also don't fertilize it, because I don't need it to be a perfect shade of green, and fertilization would make it grow even faster than our often abundant rains do. Because I did some judicious broadcast spraying with trimec years ago, and - DUH - cut at the highest depth permitted by my Kubota MMM which is 4" on the scale but probably a little higher in practice - broadleaved weeds are so rare I can just spot treat them as needed. So, I am ecologically caring for my lawn. Many people are not, and too many people want theirs to look like a putting green. The house I posted, no, is not nearly the worst example of McMansion landscaping. Definitely not "horrible", in fact I would just call it average to mediocre. But the reason it's partcularly egregious is, sorry, someone who collects plants on such a massive scale, should by my estimation have known better. The formally trained person they hired (this I know from the real estate site where I snagged it) still got it wrong, which is actually more comical than some random local landscaping dude not knowing what he was doing. In fact, the university trained landscape architect producing something that pretty much says "local landscaping dude cramming plants in front so he can get the bill up to 25K". (thus feeding the wholesale industry beast which - to loop back - is the whole reason I branched out into this) It reminds me of the hilarious story of a mature Araucaria araucana - one of the only on the east coast - being cut down at a historic estate near Wilmington, DE, by a professional landscaper for "not looking English enough"(!). Seriously, you could not make up a funnier and truer anecdote about the ignorance of some in the US landscaping profession. It's priceless....See MoreI am being asked to grow plants.....
Comments (5)It's hard to say. Find out how much you would need to buy them for and charge that or close. I would get a deposit from them, I did the same deal last year, but for a hoop house grower. I grew tomatoes, peppers, cukes, onions, and squash for him. I even helped him get some plants from a friend at lower than wholesale cost (strictly a friend deal). He had to pay them at time of pickup. I delivered his plants to him, even if I left like the plants were too young (he demanded them at that time). I have yet to be paid. I have contacted him several times and no money yet. Delivered in April, and several times, he said that the money would be in the next week or so. I'm almost ready to take it to small claims court, only $240, but I sold them at cost. Lost the entire amount....See MoreWholesalers of liners - who has low minimum order?
Comments (6)My favorite is Walters Gardens, no minimum. Their plugs are the best I've gotten, and they are great people to work with. How about Northwest Bulb and Perennial in Oregon, no minimum, very good quality. I'm just trying Van Hoorn this year. I've had really good luck with bulbs, especially lilies from Ednie. Their minimum is about $100.00. Excellent bulbs, and the owner Jeffrey is absolutely wonderful to work with. Netherland Bulb also for bulbs. I have not tried their plugs, but the bulbs from the wholesale book are excellent. No minimum. I mentioned in the previous thread where I get my ornamental grasses, so won't re-iterate. The really only place I have not had good luck with was Van Bourgondien, however, I only ordered from them once, so it may not be the norm. I'd also like to hear the replies, maybe there are some great suppliers out there I'm missing. But definitely do try Walters. Polly...See MoreWhen will you get 2006 Wholesale catalogs?
Comments (10)Hello everyone, thanks for your information. To explain a bit about me: my passion is growing from seed. From start to finish, I find it to be incredibly ......."rewarding" is the best word I can find at the moment. I know that it is much easier to order plugs. But until the day that I am not able to work my fingers to separate seedlings, I intend to do seeds as much as I can. However, I am also a very passionate gardener, so I do intend to own/sell plants that are only available as plugs. But this will be in the future yet, maybe next year. I will order a few things this year, to get the feel for it. To define what is small. I am so small that I do not even have a greenhouse. Yet, I was able to produce over 25,000 plants from seed, in my home, and working with the weather to finish them. If you saw how much work I go through, you would think I am insane. Next year, I will have an unheated greenhouse, a small one, for hardening off and growing on. And in the next two years, I will have my permanant GH built. We already have the foundation and flooring done, with a gravel parking area surrounding. I also have room for expansion. However, I do not know just how "big" I intend to get. My customers are more like "clients" at this point, clients that are passionate gardeners, anxious to get their hands on plants they have only seen in catalogs. They remind me very much of myself when I was new to gardening: staring at catalogs all winter, making wish lists for spring, only to be let down when the local nurseries did not supply the plants listed in catalogs. My dream was always to supply those plants, to myself and others, and now that dream is coming true. I also have business owners as clients, which is another big reason for my having a liscense. I realize 25,000 plants is nothing compared to what some folks here do, but I must admit that it is quite remarkable to do that many plants from within my home. My husband doesnt think so, though, he thinks I am looney! We have several unused rooms that are my "grow rooms". I am able to grow a lot of things outside during the month of April, that are ready for planting by mid May (such as Zinnias, Cosmos, Celosia). This saves me tremendous space. I am enjoying educating my clients so much, I like the "personalness" of it. I think I would love it if I had only enough greenhouse space for myself and for a certain number of clients every year. However, I would never make a living like that! I have to say that I feel that my "clients" are lucky to have someone like me to help them, supply them, educate them as best as I can. I wish I had someone to help me years ago. Anyway, that pretty much explains me....See Moreveggierosalie
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