Beautiful palms! I'm glad you are trying to grow these and in a place way out of their zone. Your King sago looks alot better than mine. I love your wagnerianus and washies. They are doing great.

Good luck with all those palms,

delaware_paradise

Thanks delaware_paradise. All of the palms took a while to get established earlier this year but around mid summer they really started to explode. All of them are continuing to grow even though I haven't been fertilizing or watering too much. I'm looking forward to next summer, seeing how the high temp is only 3°F today with a blizzard warning in place :(

I have a few seedling pictures and I have an adult Cat palm and young king sago, but they aren't pictured. They only fertilization my palms get is the soil they are sitting in. My weather is tropical compared to yours LOL. We have a high of 40F and the current temperature is 37F.

Good looking palms congrats !

You've got some really healthy looking seedlings there. Nice one :-)

Did you grow your chamaerops var ceriferas from seed? I have some that are 3 years old now and show no sign of blue yet, although they are only just producing split leaves.

Thanks trachyhead, I actually just got them off of ebay. Once about every two weeks I get on ebay and go though a list of my favorite plant genusis'(sp?) of palms which include: trachycarpus, sabal, butia, brahea, trithrinax, and then I search for "blue palm" etc. A few weeks ago someone was selling 3 of them (one's not pictured) and I won the auction for $27 shipped (~£18), which is pretty good for their size.

delaware_paradise: I also have an adult cat palm but it always seems to be yellowing so I didn't post of pic of it. My guess is that the house isn't humid enough for it, even though I mist it everyday. And 40F does sound really good right now as it's currently -3F :(
I just hope my needles make it though this already brutally cold winter..

Wow...Great collection...My sagos wont grow :( ...I got the "bulbs", can't remember what they're called, in pots but nothing, no growth at all in 2 months...They are inside in front of a west facing window...I'm not giving up, just seems like it's taking a long time.

Again...Great collection!!!

knotz

Thanks knotz. Sagos usually only grow, or flush, once a year after a good amount of heat (in zone 5 anyway). They are slow growers, but I guess that just their nature. I'd imagine that they'd flush at least twice a year somewhere with longer summers..

Here is a photo I dug up of it shortly after it "flushed" earlier this summer...

Good luck with yours!

knotz,sagos won't flush until June at the earliest,give them a shot of nitrogen in late May when it gets warm.
fr8train,nice collection,we have alot of the same palms,thats e-bay for ya,my blue needle palm is outside and besides some leaf damage from cold appears to be hanging in there but I think it will be a while before I can pull the protection and take a look at it.Paul at palmswholesale said he has some larger blue needle palms($45) (Trithrinax campestris)so I may get another just in case,(whenever he sends me a pic),anyway everything looks great,I will post a pic of my indoor palms tomorrow if its bright enough-b.t.w.that next leaf on your princeps should be a nice divided one,thaks for posting your pictures(-:

Thanks jimhardy, I've been lurking on your threads all summer and fall, and would love to see the palms you have inside. I always feel like I'm taking a shot in the dark when I buy palms from palmswholesale on ebay since they don't post photos of their palms, and they're pricey. But they do have nice rare palms (they're selling T. nanus under the name "dragon head palm"), just wish they were cheaper. I've also been looking at the mail order natives site (the place that sells the 7 gallon needles on ebay) and they stock 3 gallon Sabal louisiana for $35 shipped, so I'm going to give them a shot this spring. But again, I look forward to all your updates!

Here is a link that might be useful: Mail Order Native's S. Louisiana

Thanks so much guys :) I'll give them some nitrogen in May and see what happens...I have 4 of them...One already had leaves, about 6", but they turned yellow and brittle...The one that had foliage is really loose in the pot...Not sure what to do...I'm still going to give them time to "grow".

They seem really loose in their little pots...I don't give them much water and only give it around the "bulbs" edge.

Is that ok??...Should they get more water, fertilizer??...

My 2 bananas finally took off after 2 months..I know it's not the "right" time of year to expect too much growth, but thought they'd do better since they were inside the house.

knotz :)

Doesn't GardenWeb have a Potted Plants forum?

I know what you mean about palmswholesale but they do have the ones we likes,hopefully he will send me a pic of the Blue needle palm,definitely a big fav of mine(great pics of some in rome on E.P.S.site)I will check out S.louisiana on M.O.Natives site,I already have 3 but I love these,they really took off after being planted!If you buy some needle palms from them check the spears as my 7g needles had about nine spears pull out,they refunded all my money so no worries,if mine don't grow by mid May I will try mail order natives again as you can't beat 7g-$65.oo shipped.
Maybe I will try my flash on the camera and see how the pics come out as we have snow and cloudy weather dominating the skies for a while.

Those waggies look really cool. I like how the leaves are short and really stiff - they look like they'd be stiff as cardboard.

They are stiff as cardboard,the wind does not faze them

Waggies are very cool looking palms, when I first got mine in the mail this year I couldn't believe how small it was, and all ready had all the signs of a adult palm. I keep wanting to write that it is one of my favorites, but I find myself feeling that way about to many plant genus's (sp) :-)

jimhardy: The blue needle are also a favorite of mine lol and I cant wait until mine gets its first real fan leaves. And I remember seeing the pics you posted of your needles spear pull. I'm glad to hear that you got your money back as I've been ripped off for alot of things on ebay (and have gotten some dead on arrival palms aswell, though not from the usual sellers) and it's good to know that MONatives is an honest seller. Where did you get the S. louisianas you have planted now?

knotz: Maybe you can post photos so the people here on the board can better diagnose the problem you are having. Although I personally would probably be of no help as I find myself learning alot of everything along the way (and alot of people are farther along the way than I am). I have a second 'sago' cycad like the one pictured that sounds like it has a similar problem. I'll look and see if I have a photo..

alex_7b: I did a google search and looked though the list of gardenweb forums and could not find a potted plants forum. I might have overlooked it though.

picture #8

"...and various cacti" ?????

on the left is a Pachypodium, probably P. geayi, not a cactus
on the right is a Euphorbia sp., not a cactus
behind those there is some sort of cereoid cactus

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The stem on the Pachy does look like P.geayi but judging from the leaves me thinks P.lemerei(a.k.a. Madagascar"palm")geayi has more narrow grayish leaves,hard to tell from pic,not sure what kind of Euphorbia.
I got my S.louisiana from north of florida palms(I think)but I have not seen them listed again,they did sell me one after their listing ended but I have not been able to find them,those S.louisisana look like a great deal from mail order natives,wish they had a pic but that is a nice size for$20,about what I payed for similar size-

P.lemerei

Jim, your pachypodium's leaves seem a little wider than mine. Could it be environmental differences? Mine is outside and it's bone dry here 9 months out of 12. Is your place humid at all? MAybe that could account for your pachypoium's leaves being wider. Here's mine - in front of the window

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I think there are 2 varieties of lemerei,one has wider shorter leaves and one has longer leaves,I can't remember the name of the other,its not a lamerei,not sure though,could be light levels or some other enviromental thing as you said,it would be interesting to find out

Hey, what great photos! Now I get it!

Used to always wonder why people bothered so much to try and grow tropicals, in colder temperate zones. Especially in light of there slim chance of survival if they ever manage to grow so big for it to become difficult to move them inside for winter protection. That is, especially, if the tropicals ever managed to survive long enough to grow too big for a grower to protect them in the outdoors during the cold winter months.

Now I know better. Seems that, when only frigid temps abound outside and much of the landscape is either dormant or covered in ice and snow, at least you guys can still watch your green, thriving tropicals from the comforts of your home.

I guess my epiphamy(sp?) was something good that came to me, even though I awoke entirely too early this Christmas eve morning.

Pachy lamereii v. ramosum is the one that has thinner leaves but it also branches more readily. Lots of water + fertilizer during hot weather can also result in larger leaves.

Either way, they are all very rewarding plants to grow.

That's an insane collection of plants. All your plants look great, have more than a few in there that I'm on the hunt for. Where did you find the T. nova?? I've never seen those for sale anywhere. The S. louisiana looks real good, I didn't know they were that blue.

How big was your princeps when you bought it? Sorry for all the questions but there's alot there. :)

Fr8t,T.nova and T.manipur I bought from a seller in Ireland and was fortunate to have make it through customs,this seller is the one on e-bay that has the T.nainital for sale,(with a picture of his from his front yard)I also bought some T.takil seeds from him but none have sprouted yet,the seeds look like curled up little rollie polies.
I really love the S.louisiana!these hit the ground running and were in good shape last time I looked,which was at least 3 weeks ago.
The T.princeps I got last Feb,it was just putting out its first fan,its now opening its 7th leaf-heres a baby pic(from April) and a few over the summer,in the second to last pic are my other two princeps

Jim all your plants look healthy . Good job !