It is so good to see groups actually getting out there and buying land as opposed to complaining. Now is certainly the time for these groups, as the price of property has come down recently, which is not likely to hold indefinitely. You might be surprised, but the entire catskill and adirondack montain ranges in New York are protected under state law (with the exception of a few small towns within them). These massive areas were preserved by the state while the erie canal was being built. The erie canal engineers told the state that if the mountain ranges were not protected, and were allowed to be clear cut the erosion would be so great the erie canal be fill in after only a couple years and the Hudson river would eventaully dry up. The state solved the problem by making a park out of all the mountains. It is amazing that in the early 1800s we knew more about the importance of forest cover than we do today. "The Adirondack Park is a publicly-protected area located in northeast New York. It is the largest park in the contiguous United States, the largest National Historic Landmark, and the largest area protected by any U.S. state. The park covers some 6.1 million acres (24,700 km²), a land area about the size of Vermont, or of the Yellowstone, Yosemite, Grand Canyon, Glacier, and Great Smoky Mountains National Parks combined." "The thinking that was to lead to the creation of the park first appeared in George Perkins Marsh's Man and Nature, published in 1864.[4] Marsh argued that deforestation could lead to desertification: referring to the clearing of once lush lands surrounding the Mediterranean, he asserted "the operation of causes set in action by man has brought the face of the earth to a desolation almost as complete as that of the moon."" -that is 1864 people. "On September 18, 2008, The Nature Conservancy purchased an additional 14,600 acres (59 km2) of land adjacent to the park for $16 million dollars." oh and there is another park... "The Catskill Park is in the Catskill Mountains in New York in the United States. It consists of 700,000 acres (2,800 km²) of land inside a Blue Line in four counties: Delaware, Greene, Sullivan, and Ulster." "The park is governed by Article 14 of the state constitution, which stipulates that all land acquired within cannot be sold or otherwise transferred (absent amending the constitution, which has been done on several occasions), may not be used for logging and must remain "forever wild."" Most people have no idea that New York state is mostly forest, and half the population of the whole state lives within a 30 mile radius. When people think of wilderness and protected lands etc they usually think of California, but in reality New York sets the standard for the world in forest preservation. If only the rainforest could be seen for its value and protected in a similar means. -Werner J Stiegler

maybe you should try posting on plumeria pals and the florida plumeria forum, both are on yahoo groups.... also maui plumeria gardens has a forum as well....they woul dprobab;ly go like hot cakes there... as for me i'm too inpatient when it comes to rooting so i send mine to be grafted... cliff

If the wound was not dry, it should glue itself back together. Leave it alone. Even if the tip does not take, the stem can still root and new branches grow below the cut. It just takes longer. be patient. Do you have deer in your area or plant eating animals? Perhaps one bit and then rejected the taste. When you use a plastic bottle with holes in the bottom, you water it once and then wait for leaves.

Hi Mike.. I wish we had time to meet you in Huntington Beach!! Would have liked that. Did you go to the SCPS ? We visited Bill and Bud and had a fabulous time on the water viewing the boats in the harbor.. ( Huntington Beach ). Had dinner at a awesome restaurant on the water. Bud and i had fish and chips at Bills suggestion.. glad i listened. delicious!! It went by to fast, but made it home safely and no injuries to any trees packed to send Home!! Roxanne had a get together at her beautiful home In Ventura.. Another awesome night of good spirits, food and meeting new plumeria friends!! Truly a time to remember in Cali. Hi tech is right. My head was spinning at all of the beautiful sights.. Loved it! Had my hands on a Typhoon at JJs. But I felt like I had to many.. Argh? Can you believe that? Must have been the heat.. Even Bill mentioned to me that I should be adjusted to the humidity you guys had while there. It was HOT!! I was even tempted to put the cooler ice on my head at JJs. Lol... His boys were selling drinks and hotdogs. To cute.. My hubby would never believe I put one back.. Lol. ... But, Things happen!! ;-). I did say one!! Must have been delirious!!! Lol. Had a ball out there in your neck of the woods.. Truly is a paradise... Love your beauty posted... Take care. Mike!! Laura