My local Wal Mart had Jobe's brand Palm Tree spikes on sale today for seasonal clearance. 5 spikes per pack for $.75/pk They are 10-5-10 and have the trace elements for palms in them... Mick -- Abilene, TX

The only manganese I could find was in Miracle Gro shake and feed for palms. I finally ordered the Cycad Special from cyadjungle. Love the stuff.

He may not admit it, but CycadJungle gets his "Cycad Special" fert from a store down the street and resales it. A lot of people don't know that and he won't admit to it, but he does.
For me, I simply stop at a local dairy farmer's farm and ask to scoop up a 5 gallon bucket full of 2-3 year old manure and I put some on my cycads. Ever since I started this, I have had up to three flushes a year (two while outside, one inside) in a zone 5. I have a 2' Taitungensis trunk with a 5 1/2' spread on it right now.

Try BWI. They have a distribution center in Greenville county just off hwy 14 & I-85. Look them up on the web.

f_wannabe - where ever it comes from, it's good stuff. Glad your poop does the job for you. :)

You need a high nitrogen to get more flushes but you still might need the manganese. Nitrogen by it self will not fix that problem most of the time. You will need to find manganese by it self because regular fertilizer even with minors is not enough most of the time.The man that has that site your all talking about is very well informed about cycads I would listen to him. Just my two sense.

Fertilizer spikes

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That's exactly what i use and they work great !
I highly recommend lutz and their customer service is superb
for example i ordered my spikes from them... 6 months later they called me and asked me "how i liked their product " now
that's commitment !

I also have the Lutz spikes and use them in all my palms. As far as the manganese spikes for the sago... didn't do much... I only had one flush with them. I do like the convenience of the maintenance spikes though... and when pumping them up with something else, I haven't had any burn. I use pieces of maintenace, potassium and manganese in all my palms. Had pondered using the potassium on bananas but someone suggested it adds nothing beneficial. Maybe I should post about that and see what reaction I get.

topher - I also love their customer service. I ordered from them a couple of years ago and get a call about 3 times a year. And they don't pressure you into ordering. I think I'd like smaller spikes for younger plants. These spikes never break in just the right size. :)

Fl.wannabe, your remarks couldn't be farther from the truth! Tom has a local fertilizer com. make his fertz. to his specs. The new guy you use told you a lie! Show me some proof of your accuazation! As far as the rest of you, check out his web site and I am confident you will see this guy knows his stuff and has no need to to claim this fert if it wasn't his. I use it and know he has the best cycad fertilizer and the best source of manganese and magnesium fertilizer your palms will ever need! Pure Bull Sh!t!

Here is a link that might be useful: cycadjungle

"The new guy you use told you a lie! "
Ummm, what the heck are you talking about????? I don't use anybodies chemical ferts. I use cow manure from a Dairy Farm in Kansas. So unless your talking about an obscure Dairy Farmer in Kansas that gives a guy off the street some cow manure.....
And, it is illegal to post advertising links on this forum and pimp web sites. I hope the moderators are reading this and erase that post.

You can buy Epsom Salt in the health and beauty aid section of Walmart, any drug store or supermarket, its the same thing:)

Epsom salt is magnesium... not the same as manganese.

I was told at the local walmart I could use either one...just passing on the info I was given.

gk, you need to have both.
wannabe, I am not pimping a web site. I use Cycad Special and recommend his products and am real impressed with his knowledge just as I do the same for the people who supply my seeds at Ortaniqe. All I wanted really was to stop wannabes off the street from spreading to much "PURE MANURE"
all over this forum. I don't think this forum can stand to lose any more of its knowledgable contributors because of remarks like yours. If GW thinks that's wrong remove me entirely, not just my posts!

I agree, we don't need to lose any of of it's knowledgeable contributers, but we do need to lose a couple web site pimpers who come on here to sell there products.
Ever notice how in every one of those "knowledgeable contributions" posts from the person we are talking about, also comes with a pimping link or mention of his products?????
Heck, I can even go back and find a post by him, pretending to be somebody else and pimping his stuff. Thats just wrong.

Shoot, if your calling me a pimp, my mothers gonna be real disapointed! She has always thought I was a piano player in a wh-re house!
Just so everyone knows, I wouldn't know Tom Broome if he walked in my front door, nor would I recognize his voice on the phone. Also, I am sorry to mrimark for his post getting to this point. Tom Broome and cycads are to me what Bob Riffle and palms WERE to me!
Now, as far as pimping, :) you also would be guilty if I am. You have taken on a new sudden interest in a cycad grower who you have mentioned several times recently, whose name I will not mention because I have no idea who he is, where he is or what he stands for!(My meaning of new guy in first post) I have, to my knowledge, never read or heard anything else concerning what he is about,or read any articles he has written(if any) or any helpful posts he has contributed to this forum.You've been pimping him if I've been pimping Cycadjungle. And, so has everyone else such as Carl Pool spikes,Luts spikes,etc.etc. As far as my link in my first post, everyone can go back and see, it was a link to the ARTICLE section of cycadjungles web site, NOT a link to his product(which is excellent) in an effort to help the poster answer his or her question and gain information on his or her concerns on cycads. I don't think the real issue here is who is pimping, but more of an issue of slander,which YOU wannebe, would be guilty of! And THAT,is wrong!

"you also would be guilty if I am."
Can you please find ONE of my posts where I have linked to "the other guy"???????

"I have, to my knowledge, never read or heard anything else concerning what he is about,or read any articles he has written(if any) or any helpful posts he has contributed to this forum."
Maybe thats because he doesn't come to this forum. WOW, there is an interesting thought. And if he DID, I do not think he would give his advice, and then at the end of his advice, give out his web site and tell every body to buy his ferts. And worst yet, do it while putting out the post as another person and NOT the owner of the product. Do you NOT understand the type of person that would do this??? He actually came on here, acted as if he were just some newbie just on the board and told everybody how great the ferts were and that he ALWAYS buys for "them"!! His word was "THEM". Problem is, HE IS "THEM". That is not being an honest person. THAT is the real issue.

Here is the piece of the post he made...
"A couple of the ones daring to try something different have carried a few more species like Zamia vazquezii and Dioon edule. Luckily there are places like The Cycad Jungle that have 100 species that can be shipped when I look for something unusual and hard to find."

UMMM, Why would he put "can be shipped when I look for something...." HE IS "I"!!!!!!!!
How honest can a person be when he does this?

This is just getting ridiculous.

Tom Broome did not post on this thread about the cycad special. I did! Truly, I don't appreciate that you hijack a thread to air whatever ill feelings you harbor about past postings. Now, if you have some kind of scientific proof that the cycad special does not do as suggested, then by all means, provide that proof. Otherwise, take your grumblings someplace else and follow the terms of service that you also agreed upon. Your first post was both libelous and defamatory. Your sole purpose posting on this thread was to malign someone else who hasn't even taken part in this particular conversation.

"I don't appreciate that you hijack a thread to air whatever ill feelings you harbor about past postings. "
Then don't read it. There is a button on your "mouse" that you push if you want to read a post. If you don't want to read it, DON'T PUSH IT!!!!

" Now, if you have some kind of scientific proof that the cycad special does not do as suggested, then by all means, provide that proof."
PLEASE, PLEASE PLEASE, show me where I said it did not work. Don't worry, I'll wait. I never said it did not do what it was said to do. Perhaps instead of getting so mad while reading, you need to calmly step back and carefully read and take in the words that that are written. Because you are letting your anger read for you and NOT interpreting the words. I NEVER SAID IT DID NOT WORK!

"Your first post was both libelous and defamatory. "
WOW, thats kind of ironic because thats EXACTLY what your post is. I guess in your world it is ok for you make libelous and defamatory remarks, just as long as they are in response. I am a MODERATOR on another board and you are EXACTLY the type of person that I have to explain to that two wrongs don't make a right.

"Your sole purpose posting on this thread was to malign someone else who hasn't even taken part in this particular conversation."
NOOOOOO, my purpose on this thread is to let the public know of the dishonesty of the person that others have posted about ON THIS THREAD!! I feel that I would be cheating people by not letting them know that there is a dis honesty thing going on.

Shame! You all are talking about 2 knowledgeable people with reputable businesses just trying to make a living. Stop it and answer the questions!

Topher grabs floridawannabee tells him to sit down drink something cool calm down and don't let the forum get to him.... Just nodd your head ,doesn't realy matter not worth fighting for !

Yep, And thanks for the advise:-)
BTW, how are the Germinations going??? With the latest really warm temps, I have had unbelievable luck with my pure Filifera seeds. Those seem to always give me trouble, but these are doing great.

Mine have done great but i have got tired of germinating..
I have realy been getting into the new caledonia palms
lots of pretty ones I have actually sold some filferras and robustas I guess I just don't have the patience for them so I would rather buy seedlings.. don't get me wrong I am not saying i am through by no means.just have to wait and see.
I just got back from florida and bought a coconut and a bottle so they are my latest additions will post pics when I get time.. good to be here again : )