opium poppy seeds wanted

17 years ago

Does any one have a few poppy seeds (giganteum or tasmanian, preferably both) that would be willing to part with. Im new to the poppy plant and want to grow a few seeds to get some started. They look pretty cool and Id like to try and grow a few around the house.

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8 years ago

Just a tidbit of info for all in question regarding the Laws of growing Somniferum Poppies -

This Article Here: http://organicalbotanicals.com/is-the-somniferum-opium-poppy-legal-in-the-usa/

Explains a lot in the article and refers to some excellent Citations (including Wikipedia, and University of Washington, etc) -

It also includes photos of actual Plants Purchased in the USA such as these:

Hope this can help answer some questions.

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Okiedawn OK Zone 7
17 years ago
Hi Sticks22,

Although it is not illegal to possess the seeds of opium poppies, it is illegal to grow or possess any other part of the opium poppy plants.

So, I don't know if anyone here will have seeds to share, since growing opium poppies is a potential legal issue.

There are many nice poppies that are not opium poppies.

Dawn
Lisa_H OK
17 years ago
If you are just interested in poppies, Dawn is right, there are a lot of poppies. Looking at your member page, I'm wondering if it is the flower you are interested in.

Please excuse my skepticism, the boards get people on here occasionally who have less than pure gardening intentions.

If you are truly serious about growing poppies, in a few weeks there will be some poppy seeds that will show up on the Seed Exchange. It's probably too late to start poppies from seeds now. They are a cool spring plant. Once it gets hot they are gone. Some people have good luck growing them by direct seeding in the fall/winter. I, however, have lousy luck doing that, so I use the Winter Sow technique.

Lisa
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Concerning the drug test controversy, and questions, and this actually applies to other instances where a derivative or byproduct of an illegal substance that, in itself, is legal to consume or use, is that most drug tests do not test for the actual component that it shows a positive for, but instead another compound found only in that product, such as the poppy seeds as discussed here, and the use of some OTC preparations which also may contain the specific compound tested for, even though it does not actually contain the opiate in this case. You see testing directly for the alkaloids is a practice in futility since when it is metabolized, the body changes it's makeup, and also breaks it down and eliminates it rather quickly, hence the need to be prescribed "take very 6 hours as needed for pain" so when they formulated these drug tests, they formulated them to test for other longer lasting, indigestible compounds, found only in that particular "source" of the drug in question, so this is why eating (yes it doesn't even take an entire one) poppyseed bagel will test positive, even thought there is really no measurable alkaloids on or in the seeds themselves (opium latex is water soluble, therefore easily washed off)however the seeds DO carry the tested for compound in residual byproducts of the drug's source, and because there is this discrepancy error margin, by law, any company that terminates an employee due to a positive test result, must offer a second "clean" control test before reacting in such a manner, because it is an infringement of your rights, in respect to being treated as guilty before proving it, and this is our guaranteed right, living in this country, that all accused are considered innocent "until" proven guilty, especially where a possibly faulty method of testing was used, such as urinalysis, and even hair sample tests, since they hold results much longer since it is being deposited from within the body as the follicle constructs the hair strand. Because they are not testing for the actual drug's presence, but for the by products left by the body after digesting any portion of that plant, which would result in the actual compound they DO test for. If not for that most people who use would still pass, because the body processes and eliminates most of the original substance within hours, and sometimes days, unless...yes folks there is a but...it is something that can be stored up to a month or more with in the body's fat cells such as the active ingredient in marijuana, however most alkaloids from opiates and from cocaine to salts like amphetamines, are gone much too quickly for the test to ever catch someone, unless they were practically under the influence at the time of the test or a short time after, maybe just over more than a few hours :), I would consider consulting a lawyer anyone who has recently been fired for such a thing when innocent, unless you still failed a second test, or signed a waiver or contract, or possibly "some" areas of government, that you acknowledged this as their policy and therefore within their rights to terminate you, but unless you were a poor performer, it is likely any of these would allow the verification test given completely randomly or possibly on the spot, since it takes a week to get a result anyway, at which time unless someone was a "routined" personality that ever Wednesday is poppy seed bagel day for morning break, then innocent as this type of person may be, they will test positive again and could lose their job at that point, unless he had this bagel with the employer on a weekly basis because such an alibi is proof enough that they were innocent, but whether they notarized, if you will, the employer would no longer have any obligation to pursue proving their innocence and would be within the law to terminate this person, but if after the time needed to retain and consult (maybe backwards order? LOL) an attorney and then get a court date, if they rule in favor of the employee, they would then be responsible for reimbursing all lost wages by the employee, and possible punitive damages such as loss of promotion interest rates that revert to a ridiculous number should you pay late once, or psychological impact, as well as (my favorite one) because the whole ordeal interfered with their ability to perform for their partner in a satisfactory manner, and get boatloads over the lost wages, because this is one of the most rewarding of these types of padded suits that attorneys love to drive for, since the greater the plaintiffs settlement, the greater their commission or percentage they will get. If you are someone who was wrongfully terminated in these circumstances, don't allow an attorney to push you in to anything more than what you feel is fair, and don't be greedy just because you can be, because once back on the (if you even get it back if you went for too much) job, it would only be a matter of time for them to have a legitimate means to terminate you, so unless you perform above the bar, and now so even more than ever, with literally hundreds of people standing so close behind you to take your place you can feel the breath of the third person behind you on the back of your neck, that employers now hold the deck, and ave complete control of the hands being dealt, since many of those people will do it for less money than you are being paid....pretty scary huh? Well i went in to all this for a reason and aside for a flair for a little drama, those who have mentioned the difficulty in paying for pain management, and other "alternately available" means of managing it on their own, even if you need not go for an office visit, most of the prices I know of, and this is the legal, at the pharmacy price, being around a dollar per pill or dose, now lets do the math, take one tab/cap every six hours for pain, and you DO need to take it at that frequency, that's $120.00 a month, and this is usually combined with one or two other "adjunct" therapies, that may not be quite as much, but still significant enough to impact any number of everyday meals or recreation, that can no longer be afforded, despite not being a luxury or delicacy by any measure. The reason we may not see the DEA or more so many local law enforcement representatives may not being as responsive to smaller growers in general, is because quite a number of States, based upon test results from other country's research, have much evidence supporting their medical benefit, or serves as an alternative means of providing for oneself, or it has been illegal but is being reconsidered in this new light and may possibly be just ironing out the specifics of what is a viable allowable amount for personal production and under a permit issued in the form of a prescription by a real doctor (meaning one that actually examined you and ran conclusive tests) at which point you would then be legally allowed to produce the specific plant, or byproduct of the plant, within strict parameters, so point is, people with small personal batches will likely never be noticed if they do not do anything else about it that IS still illegal, such as, selling or even giving it to another, carrying it outside of your home unless in an ingestible form, and so on, I can make more up as we go along but I think I have taken enough for you good people's time, thank you for reading through all this I hope this brings the whole picture together in someone's mind and clears up some og the mystery, as it were, oh just one more thing....I used to watch mythbusters, when it first came on, but after 12 or 15 episodes, I stopped because I found many incidences of missed possibilities in quantifying whether something was in fact a myth, where the results were the ones more likely to get more people to watch the show and not truly crack a myth. 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Okiedawn OK Zone 7
17 years ago
Lisa,

Well said. You go, girl!

Dawn
organicjulie
17 years ago
I hate to sound negative too but I agree with Dawn and Lisa. There are many pretty poppies that are legal to grow.

BTW, did I mention that I am in law enforcement? I suppose not. But it is true. I am a prosecutor and organic gardener. ;-)

I am not tooting my own horn, just stating a fact. Organic gardeners and other gardeners alike have many professions. You should understand this before a post.

Julie
okiegardener
17 years ago
Speaking of poppy seeds - my mom once through away a whole bottle of poppy seeds to use in baking because she thought they were illegal! Guess she didn't think about all those other bottles on the grocery store baking isle!

To add my voice to the chorus, Sticks22, not many people would be gullible enough to believe that you only want to "grow a few around the house" because they "look cool"! Despite being gardeners, we didn't just fall off a turnip truck! Carolyn
oakleif
17 years ago
sticks, I see you just joined garden Web the day you asked for poppy seeds and also posted on seed exchange for poppy seeds. Ask again next fall when you can plant them. And stay active on here and maybe we'll give yoU some info.

It is not illegal to grow Papaver somniferum and you can buy seeds from reliable seed companys but you mess with the GREEN seed cups and you can be hung, and hope you are. That is the only part of the plant that produces opium.

There are more than a few people who grow these poppies for their colorful beauty.
vickie
Lisa_H OK
17 years ago
In case you are still around :) Here's some photos of some legal poppies, fresh from my garden!

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Lisa
merryheart
17 years ago
Wow Lisa those are GORGEOUS!!!! I have never grown poppies but after seeing those I may have to plant some this fall. Is that correct? you need to plant the seeds in fall?
Thanks for sharing those beautiful pictures!
G.M.
susanlynne48
17 years ago
Are the red ones the breadseed poppies, Lisa? Sure are gorgeous! I've never been successful with poppies, but my neighbor across the street grows them. He planted them the first time, and has never had to plant them again because they reseed.

I would love to have 'Patty's Plum'. Oooh, that one is to die for.

Julie, do you work for the Oklahoma County DA? I was a paralegal at a downtown lawfirm for 10 years, and before that was a federal paralegal for 10 years, and then before that was a paralegal for a lawyer in Norman.

I just got burned out after so long at it. And, we paralegals get the brunt of the work and very little appreciation for it. That wasn't true with the gov't, because the feds treat everyone equally, but the private sector is H*LL! I worked in tax, corporate, and probate, though, so didn't really deal with the criminal or other prosecutorial areas of law.

I'm surprised you have time for gardening, though! For some odd reason, I don't think we're going to hear from the original poster here.

Susan
organicjulie
17 years ago
Hi Susan,

Actually, I saw your post about Rambo. I was going to type something then but was still lurking at the time. I love David!!! He was a mentor of mine and helped me out after law school. My first office was in the building on Main street with David.

BTW, I can imagine getting burned out with David. He was close to retirement by the time I became a lawyer and the only paralegal that could handle him was an OCD woman who I still adore. She is a saint.

I started in the Cleveland County D.A.'s office as an intern prosecuting Domestic Abuse. That job was mentally difficult to say the least.

I work for the Attorney General now so I am statewide. I prosecute white collar crime, fraud, elderly financial crimes, internet fraud, antitrust violations....that kind of stuff. I am sort of the geek of the office. ;-)

Time? LOL I HAVE to garden. It is my sanctuary and my peace. I find that my garden relaxes me the minute I step outside. I would go crazy (and almost did) without it. I love to just sit in the middle of it and watch the insects, critters and plants live. It is amazing to experience and is my way of meditating on life.

Sorry about getting sappy but I am still trying to figure out how I stayed sane during a long hiatus from gardening. Anyway, I am back at it and I feel better than I have felt in a long time. So, to put a long story short. I make time for gardening.
impatience_7
17 years ago
OrganicJulie, are you the hosta person or the one who left me with your juvenile cases?? lol

By the tone I would guess that you are the juvie person. I miss seeing you and glad to see you are a rabid gardener.

Imp
Lisa_H OK
17 years ago
GM: Poppies are supposed to be very easy to direct sow, and the common wisdom is fall. I never had a whole lot of luck with direct seeding them, but once I discovered Winter Sowing I finally was successful. But they need to be started REALLY early. In fact, I've had them sprout in the fall and live over through the winter.

The red and pink ones (without the blotches) are shirley poppies, also known as corn poppies I think. The pink with blotches is what's known as breadseed poppies. It's the same type poppy as peony poppies.

The breadseed poppies do not reliably reseed for me, but the shirlies reseed fairly well.

Lisa
merryheart
17 years ago
Lisa
What other flowers and plants do you grow with the poppies? I can envision a type of cottage garden look with lots of other perinials and such growing with them. I have never grown poppies but they are gorgeous from your photos.
I would love to have my entire back yard done in cottage gardens but with our horrid soil and other factors we have to go with raised beds as much as possible.
What are the red or pink crinkly paper looking poppies in your photos? They are lovely. But they all are. I like the one with the purple center as well.
Perhaps I will try and make another bed in which to plant poppies along with some other perinnials. More beds to care for.....just what I need...lol. There is no stopping place is there?

Thanks for your info. I could gain yet another interest with these poppies.
G.M.
Lisa_H OK
17 years ago
GM: I'm going to attach a link to my photobucket site, you can see more of my beds there. The main page is more individual shots, while the "yard shots" section has wider views.

Poppies don't last long here, they are an early spring thing, but I grow these around the base of my hardy hibiscus which is just now starting to get tall, so it's a good double use of space.

This is a shot from last year. All the purple you see at the end of the peninsula is larkspur and the poppies are mixed in. This year it's more predominately poppies with a little larkspur!

And then a month later. The poppies and larkspur are gone and see how the hibiscus takes over?

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And for comparison, same shot this year:

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The crinkly poppies are shirley poppies. I wish I had digital pics of the year I had peony poppies everywhere. I was in heaven!

Lisa

Here is a link that might be useful: Lisa's Garden
droogie6655321
17 years ago
Julie:

I read above that you work for the AG. I just wanted to say that as a reporter, I really appreciate the work that Mr. Edmondson has done to educate city, county and local officials about Oklahoma's sunshine laws.

When I worked as a reporter in a smaller town, his office was instrumental to the work I did there when the locals refused to comply with Open Records Laws.

Drew Edmondson is my second-favorite elected official (after the governor), and I appreciate his staff as well.
Okiedawn OK Zone 7
17 years ago
Lisa,

The poppies look great.

I grow the corn poppies and Shirley poppies in the ditch alongside my driveway and the road. They have been there for 8 years and reseed themselves.

I also have a few in the cottage border that runs along the east side of my veggie garden, and a few (which planted themselves) on the dirt that surrounds the tornado shelter.
In the cottage border they are growing with larkspur, chamomile and verbena bonariensis. By the time the poppies are done, the Texas Hummingbird Mints will be coming into bloom.

The peony poppies are my favorites. I had a really good stand of them 4 or 5 years ago, but they reseeded less and less each year, and this year I don't have any. I guess I will sow some more seed this fall/winter. Iceland Poppies haven't done well for me at all, but some years I plant California Poppies and they do great although they usually get buried underneath some taller and more vigorous plants.

I just came in from deadheading the poppies a few minutes ago. While I was outside I became a skeeter pincushion, so need to spray on some bugspray before I go back out after lunch.

Thanks for sharing your pics! You have a lovely yard.

Dawn
wolflover
17 years ago
Lisa,
Your poppies are so gorgeous. You have inspired me to plant some. Would it be best to direct sow this fall, or wait and sow them in my Winter Sown containers? The only poppies I've grown are the Iceland Poppies that I've bought as annuals.
Thanks so much for sharing your photos.
Dawna
Lisa_H OK
17 years ago
Dawna, I would direct sow some any time between now and fall. I figure the plants drop their seeds now, we can too! But I would do some back up plant with Winter Sowing, and do them early. Poppies are always the first thing I sow.

The seed exchange will usually have a large number of seeds available. I'll try to post a note when my seeds are ready.

I'm just thrilled to get an opportunity to post the pictures, this thread seemed the perfect place to "show off" a little :)

Lisa
Okiedawn OK Zone 7
17 years ago
Lisa,

With a yard like that, you should show it off!

Feel free to post any time, and we all will drool.

Dawn
susanlynne48
17 years ago
Julie, I had a friend who worked there, don't know if she's still there. Her name is Sheila. Also, I just adore the Clerk of the Supreme Court, Mike Richey. I used to work with him at FDIC.

When at Phillips McFall I worked with Bill Price, who did a lot of white collar defense both at the state and federal level - mostly federal. You may know him, too.

David is a hoot, huh? Actually I didn't get burned out by David. He was my mentor, too. I worked for him for 7 years when I lived in Norman. I need to call him and see how he is doing, and his bro, Dan. I also worked with Don Pape ("of counsel" at PM4). If so, you probably know Sandy, too, at Don's office. You may also know Judge Opala, who was a dear friend of T. Ray Phillips at our firm up until T. Ray passed away. We were all devastated by that, and I think that is what had such an impact on the diminution of our Tax Department.

Oh, gosh, it is a small world, isn't it? Everything I learned about "finding" stuff, I learned from David because he never made it easy for me! LOL! But, he had the biggest heart. We won't discuss Laura.

Sorry to get OT, everyone! I would love to grow poppies, but they just don't do well for me, and I don't really know why. I had some red ones last year, and hoped they would reseed, but nothing came up this year.

Lisa, your garden is just gorgeous! Do you live in OKC? It looks familiar somehow. You must attract lots of butterflies with all your beautiful flowers! I love the hellebores and have the orientalis and foetidus. A girl in Missouri sent me starts of the H. foetidus, and they are growing like mad. If you want a start of them next year, I'll be happy to share. You grow some beautifully, diverse plants!

Susan
Lisa_H OK
17 years ago
Susan: I've posted those pics before...so you are probably getting a sense of deja vu! And we've talked butterflies...remember my million butterflies last fall that needed id'ing? :)

I have a new poppy pic this morning. It was so cute, I ran to get my camera:

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I don't know why I love poppies so much, probably because they are so vibrant. I uploaded a bunch more pics this morning.

Lisa
merryheart
17 years ago
Lisa that is one adorable bloom you captured so beautifully. The more of your photos I see the more I feel interested in making a place for poppies around here. They look like "happy flowers"....my name for any flower which brings a smile or a spark of happiness within when I see it.
Keep those photos coming. I know everyone must enjoy them! I certainly do.
G.M.
susanlynne48
17 years ago
Lisa - that is so cute! The flower looks like it has ear muffs on.

Now I remember - you had lots of butterflies!

Susan
scarleta
17 years ago
I seeded some poppies a while ago and they are coming up nicely.Can anyone please let me know spacing between mature plants? They need to be thinned asap and I lost the package with instructions? So please do let me know.I don't know the kind I have , but I know they are not opium ( bought them at the garden store) Please do help me by letting me know how to space them.Hope to do it asap..Thanks so much.
Okiedawn OK Zone 7
17 years ago
In flower beds I usually thin them to 12" to 18" apart. I will thin them a little farther apart if they are interplanted with other plants like larkspur that bloom at the same time so nothing gets crowded out.

In the pasture or meadow I thin them out to 10" to 12" apart so there is not a lot of empty space between plants where the native grasses can get growing too vigorously and overwhelm the poppies.
scarleta
17 years ago
many , many thanks had no idea that they need that much space..Going to work on it now..
Okiedawn OK Zone 7
17 years ago
Scarleta,

In our climate they do get that big, but I don't know if they will grow as large (or maybe larger?) in your climate.

Some people don't thin them very much at all. I have noticed, though, that plants which aren't thinned remain tall and lanky due to overcrowding and do not flower for as long of a period of time. Well-spaced poppies form beautiful, wide plants which bear many, many blooms.

Each bloom only lasts a day. If you deadhead them frequently, they will set flowers for a longer period of time. You can tell when they are coming to the end of their bloom time as they produce fewer and smaller flowers because their energy is all used up. At that point, if you want them to reseed, just stop deadheading them. You can let them reseed themselves or you collect the seed from the pods.

Happy Growing!

Dawn
scarleta
17 years ago
Thanks for that Dawn: you know I did accidently post it on wrong forum.Was going to put it in PNW (Pacific North West) We don't have as much heat and not lasting too long.Anyways thanks a lot for the info very helpful.I am actually going to use the seeds in baking so I need them to seed. I have never grown them but use them in baking and like to eat them, so perhaps I can just de bud them so I have fewer flowers and let them go to seed.What do you think of this? Thanks
impatience_7
17 years ago
OT-lots of law types in the forum. Kinda strange as I haven't seen this interconnectedness in any of other forums.

I, too, have had a relationship with David professionally and personally as he is the one who picked up my 3 day old daughter from the hospital and delivered this bundle of joy to my house. She will be 16 soon. (I drove him crazy during that period-Kari held my hand).

And Sandy is one of my close friends. I officed across the hall from them on Crawford and Main. Very nice office filled with architects now.

Susan-what lifetime did you work with David? Did you know Marianne? A secretary I knew back when couldn't figure out why she was dreaming about Rainbow Paper Straws. Then eureka! one morning she was opeing mail and looked down at some correspondence noticing their letterhead-Rambo, Pape and Traw. lol I have always enjoyed that story.

Calling Julie-would you please check in and clear up some stuff for us so we can get back to the illegal poppies? ;) If you respond I might bring you some pieces of some fine plants............(bribery sometimes works).

On Topic: Has anyone found wintersowing beneficial to growing poppies well? I have heard good stories, but they are up north and who knows if it translates. Also I have heard they don't transplant well.

Anyone?

(hope this message is ok-I am generally a lurker and I just got verbose.)
Okiedawn OK Zone 7
17 years ago
Impatience,

I have transplanted poppies from one location in the ground to another when the plants are a couple of inches tall and the weather is still cool, and they have been fine.

The first time I sowed seeds I broadcast them on the ground in January. The second time I did it I broadcast them on the ground in late February. Both years I got a good stand. Since then they have reseeded themselves with wild abandon. They aren't invasive in my landscape, but the seeds are tiny and sometimes a lot of tiny seedlings come up in a clump, which is why I sometimes transplant some.

I've never wintersowed them but I think it would work. The seeds are tiny, tiny, tiny, though, and need to be sowed on the surface as they need light to germinate.

Dawn
susanlynne48
17 years ago
I wintersowed them year before last and they did fine. Did the same with larkspur, which is also supposed to resent transplanting. I think if you do it when they are seedlings, they will be fine.

I have some breadseed poppy seeds. Has anyone grown these? I will have to wait until next year to sow them now cause it's too late here.

Impatience - tell Sandy that Suze from Phillips McFall said "hey". One of the female attorneys I worked for at Phillips used to do some work for Pape. Her name is Jennifer Golden. Haven't seen David in awhile, but he used to come up with Sandy on occasion to have lunch with me.

OT: Oh, geez, I worked for Rambo, Pape & Traw, along with Brenda Cortassa who used to work for Don, and is now at the adjunct Norman office of that HUMOUNGOUS firm in OKC. When I first started for David in 1976, I kept hoping I would NOT get the job. I didn't like him at all in my first interview. In the mid-70s, no one had heard of a resume. He made me sit at the typewriter (the old IBM correcting Selectric?) and type my resume for him. Ooh, that made me mad. When I started for him, it was Rambo, Boswell, and ? Long time ago. Then we moved in with Don and John. After I left the firm, David had, oh, I don't know, probably 10 secretaries, cause he is so demanding and unorganized. But, I love him dearly. I think he has recovered from his cancer now.

David had some very strange clients, and being so close to Central State Hospital, we had lots of walk-ins who were, how shall I say it nicely, a little eclectic? One guy came in and wanted to use our telephone. I asked him if it was a local call, and he said, "no", he wanted to obtain the number for a direct line to the stars (as in the moon, sun, and....). Yikes!

I'm so glad you got your baby you wanted so badly! David is great in that way.

Susan
organicjulie
17 years ago
Impatience,

LOL Yes you did inherit a lot of my juvie cases. I really miss that part of private practice. I never get to Cleveland County any more and I miss all of you tremendously. I loved the juvie docket and everyone who worked it. It was so rewarding.

Anyway, I cannot believe your daughter is driving????? My gosh, where has time gone? BTW, I will send you an email tomorrow. I want my hosta. ;-)

Okay, I am done with the off topic part of this thread. I promise. :-D
Okiedawn OK Zone 7
17 years ago
For what it is worth, I don't mind it when the conversation goes 'off topic', although I understand some people might not like it.

When we go off topic, we reveal a little more about ourselves and get to know each other a little more, and I like that.
poky
16 years ago
I found some pretty poppies at walmart turned out to Iceland poppies. Has anyone tried these as transplants? They're on the south side so prolly won't make it long into the heat.
Okiedawn OK Zone 7
16 years ago
The smaller they are, the easier it will be to transplant them. Just use a trowel and take a substantial amount of soil to that the roots aren't disturbed too terribly much. I've transplanted Iceland poppies as late as May and had them survive.

Dawn
exjordanary_gmail_com
15 years ago
Actually, it's perfectly legal to grow Papaver Somniferum (Opium Poppies) in the USA just as long as you're not growing them for Opium production. On the photos that "lisa_h" posted above, the 3rd one down, and the very last photo are actually Papaver Somniferum poppies (Opium Poppies). I have even bought Papaver Somniferum plant starts at my local nursery here in Washington State. And I've been growing them for years. In fact, I sell many of their seeds online (ebay and my own website) :

http://stores.ebay.com/exjordanary-Seeds-and-Herbs

and

www.exjordanary-seeds-and-herbs.com

Here is a link that might be useful: .exjordanary-seeds-and-herbs
gamebird
15 years ago
I was told that too, a couple years ago, that it was legal to grow any kind of poppy as long as you didn't do anything with the seed pods that could be construed as trying to make drugs. But my source wasn't law enforcement. The poppy seeds I tried (in Minnesota) didn't do anything, but I wasn't winter sowing them or fall sowing them. I just put them out in the late spring and nothing happened for a while, so I tried to grow cilantro in the same spot. Of course they took two weeks to germinate as well, so I got to thinking the spot was cursed.

I should plant some poppies next fall/winter in my front flower beds. Assuming I remember.
ilene_in_neok
15 years ago
I had heard the same thing. I grow the breadseed poppy. Got the seed from Swallowtail Gardens, I think. But I imagine you could just as easily get the seed by buying a bottle of poppy seed in the grocery store spice aisle. Someone told me that the breadseed poppy is the same as the opium poppy but if it's not I don't care because I don't plan to make any opium.....
caroline_2008
15 years ago
Your poppie is beautiful!! I have tried for

several years to grow any kind of poppies, Last

fall I planted 3 pkg of the seeds in a very

large pot and left them out all winter, nothing

has sprouted Yet. I now have a clear plastic over

the pot, thinking I will get something to sprout. :)

Caroline
jessaka
15 years ago
Lisa, I love your garden. that is what i am trying for. i like how you have a border and that the grass is trimmed. i guess you just use an edeger on the grass. is that bermuca grass? it just doesn't seem to invade?

i am now thinking, as i have been, of taking my rock border out. the hose gets caught on it and because the rocks are just chipped rocks they don't look fancy enough for me.

by the way, i just googled for opium poppy seeds for sale and found them, which shocked me. actually i was just googling opium poppies to see if they were what we had in a vacunt field when i was growing up since we had various kinds of poppies and bachelor buttons that i just loved. i don't know if any were opium or not. but i will always remember that field. have yet to plant bachelor buttons
ilene_in_neok
15 years ago
Caroline, my poppy seedlings this year are still tiny and they have come up very thick. All I do is wait until about January, then I scatter the seed where I want the poppies to grow, as I haven't had good luck transplanting poppies. I don't cover the seed or even tamp them down. I'm still kind of new at growing poppies, this being only my second year, and I did worry about the birds coming along and eating the seed so at first I covered the bed with some old curtain sheers that I keep for use in the garden. But at some point one end came loose from the edge and I watched closely and didn't see any birds coming to the raised bed to eat, so I took the sheers off and just ignored them until early spring, when I was out one day and noticed lots of little seedlings up. They have ridden out numerous nights of freezing temps and the only thing I did was to water from time to time during a dry spell.

It may be that planting in the fall is too early to plant? Maybe they broke dormancy too soon and then dried out, or maybe the birds ate the seed? Maybe they were covered too deep in the soil? At any rate one would think a few of them would've survived, from planting that many. You should have seedlings up by now if they've been out all winter, though. You might try stirring the top layer of soil up a little. When something doesn't germinate for me, I have a spot in one of the raised beds where I spread the dirt from ungerminated plantings. Sometimes things come up the next year out of that dirt!
helenh
15 years ago
I winter sowed some and transplanted them when very small; some of them disappeared. Lately I have been cutting off the top of the milk jug from winter sowing and putting it over them after transplanting. They are growing. The reseeded ones from last year's plants are coming up in the grass. I have moved some of those successfully. The beginning of this thread was frightening to me. Opium poppies are beautiful and prettier than shirley poppies. Oriental poppies are beautiful but perenial and you have to put up with ugliness after they bloom. Opium poppies are annuals which I pull up except for a few after they bloom. They are in gardening magazines, garden books, and seeds are sold in catalogs. I hope law enforcement people can tell a harmless plant addict from a drug addict.
caroline_2008
15 years ago
Ilene and Helen, thanks for the information,

I will keep trying. :))

Caroline
auzziebloke
14 years ago
G'day sticks22,.,how ya goin in good old Okie,.,I hope them godgobbers at the Philadelphia church of god,(who are a well known plague on your states landscape,and their chief godgobbering spruiker Gerald Flurry)haven't got on ya opium seed chase case,and given you a hard time.
It pisses me off to see all the do-gooders and moralistic morons getting stuck into you for asking your question.
I hope by now that you've grown some super huge pods of opium poppy.Check this out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cR2fLGR4bBI&feature=related
The main problem with trying to get enough product for a decent buzz is that you don't get the same crop yield per plant as you do from a skunk plant.What a frigging shame eh!!!
What a bloody magic poppy plant that would be.They are anyway,but just imagine if you could get a poppy with mega amount of pods on it like heads on a really good smoker joker.
Another problem is all the creepy cretins who try to dob you in to the pigs.Even though it aint illegal to grow these beautiful and majestic marvels of Muvva Nature,who I regularly have sex with in clouds of opioidal dreamy bliss.She's a triffik sheila is Mrs Muvva Nature.
If I had enough dosh to set up a multi headed opium poppy plant experiment I would.
eeeeeeeerz cheeeeeeerz to your earz sticksie 22
Let us know how ya got on(-:
helenh
14 years ago
How strange. I'm glad I only look at them if that is what they do to you.

opium poppy seeds wanted

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