Just to give you a bit of background.... They have the nickname Phal type Dens. because the main species used most in breeding them is Dendrobium Phalaenopsis which is growing in my glasshouse right now. Temperature at 16:00 is 26C, humidity 70%. Not a problem, had it for ages and never misted it. The plant has 7 canes with the 6 newest ones having all their leaves and the oldest one being leafless. The only problem in growing it is when it blooms in late autumn i have to make sure that it doesn't get cold and wet otherwise the plant will drop buds. Some years i get a reasonable flowering, other years not so good, I only keep it because it is a bit of a challenge. It is because Dendrobium phalaenopsis is not tolerant of any cold and wet conditions that hybridisers have used many other Dendrobium species in their breeding programs so Dendobium Salaya Fancy should be easy to grow in zone 10. Just heed what Alberta says and you should be fine.

Txbelle, the short answer is that i do not know. The only thing i grow inside is Phals and because of space limitations all my "warm growing Dens" are ouside in glasshouses. It is very annoying that there is no registered Den. Salaya Red because you can track back to the species ancestors using the Data in the Royal Horticultural Society Database. Sigh. Anyway, still guessing that it is a warm growing hard cane type.... did you decide to be kind and repot it?

Thanks Guys and Nancy, One thing I know is that they need a couple of cool/cold nights, say in the mid to high 40's... I even know someone in St Pete zone 9 who leaves them outdoors all year and it gets down to the high 30's at times and they do real well. I think I did everything right to be honest, just had a bad bloom season... no blooms at all. John, someone told me I was zone 11 as well, but nowhere can I find a zone chart which lists us as zone 11... I'm within 1 mile from the coast. Anyhow, I grow mine on the trees too. My aphyllums bloomed beautifully. I'm thinking that I skipped the anosmums at times when feeding and I know that they're heavy feeders. Its disappointing hearing that its too late because I have a few plants with 5 foot canes, one of them an alba. Oh, and about it being too late in the season, a couple of mine came to full bloom in June last year and the year before. I guess thats where my confusion comes in, though others faithfully bloom in April. Well, thanks again all. I plan to feed a little heavier this time around. Al

Hi txbelle. Not a definitive answer to your question -- Just wanted to share my experience with Iwanagara Apple Blossom, and a possibility about the Oncid. I loved Apple Blossom and tried for three years to grow and bloom it, two different varieties. In my best (and final year) I got a lot of growth and about 4 flowers on a big plant overflowing an 8" pot. I had bought these two ABs in bloom with dozens of flowers on them, so the sparcity of flowers wasn't immaturity. I gave them high outdoor light all summer, and 400 Watt HID in winter. Just couldn't get lavish blooming out of them. I finally decided that they probably needed a *cooler* and *brighter* winter than I could provide indoors and gave up on them. Cant say definitively that that's your problem. But try leaving the AB out in fall til the temperature drops a little below 40, see if that helps. It should be able to handle that temperature, with the Dialaelia parent. Oncididum also bloom better when left outside in the fall. Mine always set spikes in fall once the days got shorter, and the nights cooler. This was true even for the ones that bloomed a spike or two at other times. The year I left them out to 39F or so, I got the very best blooms. These definitely bloom better when left outdoors from about July and August on thru til nearly frost.