Climbing wild rose/Rosa setigera - questions
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maifleur01
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Native climbing thorny bush ID PLZ? Maybe wild rose?
Comments (2)Yup thats it, thank you! That page describes it so well. "can form impenetrable thickets", lol..that was the back 1/3 of my yard! Thank you! Daniella...See MoreZone question for climbing roses
Comments (38)Jim- Good to know about Golden Showers. I decided to get one William Lobb to go with my two Fantin Latour roses. I suspect that it might not grow as tall as they say on the website, in my colder climate. In this location it's okay it it's just a big beautiful shrub. Thank you all for your input. I was leaning towards New Dawn for the kitchen garden arbor, but was afraid it might be too exuberant. Finally decided to zone push a little and ordered two Lavender Lassie roses that should arrive early next June. They'll be own root and the arbor will be in one of the most protected locations we have, so I'll keep my fingers crossed :)...See MoreCan the wild species roses be tamed to climb a fence?
Comments (14)I love species roses! I have numerous CA native species and have seen others elsewhere. R. gymnocarpa at Rancho Santa Ana Botanic Garden near me I've never seen get over 2 1/2 to 3 feet tall. Short and bushy. Not a climbing habit. I didn't notice it suckering. I grow R. pinetorum 'Beatrice Howett' from RSABG. It is also a small rose. I haven't had it all that many years in my garden, but it hasn't suckered. However at RSABG it is well-established and suckering happily. It's more a lax grower there and doesn't look big enough to climb a fence unless it was a very short one. RSABG grows selections of R. californica from different parts of the state, and they do indeed have a variety of habits, from short and sparse to bushy to climbing, some even completely thornless. All of them I've seen sucker from moderately to A LOT. The one I grow that is capable of climbing (with support) is R. californica 'First Dawn'. Canes are long and pliable, it has only moderate thorns, and is in the moderately suckering category. It has the best rebloom of any R. californica I have yet seen. RSABG also has R. nutkana. It suckers pretty wildly, and the ones I've seen have gotten maybe 5 feet tall. Then there is R. minutifolia. At RSABG it has been growing for decades and it spreads rather than pops up in entirely new spots like the suckering champions do. I have numerous R. minutifolias in my yard. Two of which I am training to climb up Monterey Cypress 'Citriodora'. I decided to have fun and experiment since I like this rose so much, give it a challenge. It seems to be working with one of the plants already reaching around 6 feet up. Minutifolia tends to be an arching grower (but some plants are very shrubby), building big mounds that kind of spread like a fungus.;) R. minutifolia can become unhappy and die in areas with too much rainfall. RSABG also has R. spithamea. It is kind of short and bushy there (2 to 2 1/2 feet), but that plant hasn't been growing on the grounds very long so I don't know if it will end up getting much taller. I wonder though because they planted it right in front of a big educational sign and I would think they wouldn't if it was going to get huge. I haven't noticed it suckering, but it is probably too soon to say....See Morequestion on cutting back climbing rose
Comments (7)Thanks for the replies. I am in Zone 6 in NYC. I know a while back I'd seen new zones of 6a and 6b, and in fact a search just now is showing my Zone as now 7b (apparently an 'update' made in 2012) but...I always prefer to err on the side of caution, esp. since all my plants are in pots and therefore need more protection from the cold. So net, net, I'm in zone 6, with the plant I purchased being hardy to Zone 4. I think I get now, what you are saying regarding simply untying the canes from the trellis. I think I was originally getting confused, and thinking that this 'climbing' plant would behave similar to say a morning glory, where the stems twirls all around the trellis and so a potted morning glory is impossible to move without cutting back all the stems. But yeah, now that I think about it, rose trellises that I seem to recall seeing, do not behave that way. The stems more or less remain flat, and not 'twirling' around any trellises, etc. So.... is there a particular way folks would protect such a potted climbing rose plant? I'm familiar with processes (for the pot and soil and roots themselves) such as....adding layers of dried leaves, mulch etc. to top of soil.... perhaps sitting the pot on top of a big piece of burlap...adding more dried leaves all around the side of the pot...maybe adding a piece of bubble wrap as well....and then bringing all of that up and around the top of the pot... securing it all within the burlap....and tying it up somehow..so the entire pot is 'insulated'. Does that sound like a good approach? And then for the plant itself...the stems....would I just wrap it in burlap as well..and then if so...what about when it snows and accumulates, and I possibly have a heavy, wet mound of snow on top of the stems and burlap cover...what if the weight causes the branches to break? Or should I worry more about protecting the pot itself...the root ball...and just leave the branches bare? (I feel like snow is more problematic for branches when the branches are covered in burlap...because then the burlap acts like a 'canopy'....collecting more snow. Thanks!...See Moremaifleur01
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