Pickering sells this rose--they had some in stock. Here is a link that might be useful: Pickering sells this Centifolia Bullata

Hi. I found the double yellow variety at a local nursery, Swanson's. On the advice of another gardenwebber, I had sent an email to the trees/shrubs manager, inquiring as to its availability and he personally answered it in the affirmative. How's that for great customer service? I also received a kind offer from one of the resident experts here (she sent it directly to my email, so not sure if I should publicly thank her) so will soon some backups in case I manage to kill it off before getting it to my sister as well as more to give to her daughter (it's a second marriage) and even my own selfish self. I love gardenweb! Happily, Rain

Got one, thanks! Rain

I have 'Baltimore Belle' growing up into a dying Japanese maple. It's still young, but starting to throw very long canes into the tree from a narrow base. It's not as prickly as 'Erinnerung an Brod', and I suspect that's evidence of it not having the same type of "other parent". References describe it as a hybrid with either a Noisette or a Gallica, and I'd say it's the former rather than the latter. Here, prickles are noticeable but sparse and widely-spaced. I posted pics of it in this thread last year. After the bloom, those laterals sprouting up in the tree extended to between six and ten feet in length. I tucked them into the tree so they weren't jutting straight up and out, and will tie them in better to snake along the tree branches in the next couple of weeks. I also don't think the habit of mine would be typical if you grew yours on a trellis or wall, simply because training would be different. I would guess that mine has fewer main canes because I allow so much top-growth and extending laterals which I move to where I want rather than spurring them back. My "Nouveau Monde -- In Commerce As" grows similarly huge and spreading against a raised back deck, but all of it emanates from one cane that's now about 5" in circumference. My guess is that a cane with many active growth buds on it suppresses the development of new canes from the roots. It's as if the roots "allow" only as much top-growth as they can support. The result is a massive "one-cane wonder" that adopts a lax but almost tree-like habit. If you pruned as well as trained -- such as one would when growing a climber against a flat surface -- the roots would get "signals" that more canes can be "afforded" and thus are generated. For me, it is completely disease-free. Fragrance-wise, it's about the same as 'Marie Pavie' -- moderate up-close, but detectable from further away as the scent wafts. And they have about the same "flavor" as well. Bloom-time last year was three weeks, but I imagine this year it will last longer simply because there is more of the rose, and in different parts of the tree, so it won't all start at the same time. :-) ~Christopher