The leaves do closely match on that one. Not exactly a stunning plant, huh? Doesn't ring any bells for anything we might have planted either. I'll watch it and see how it goes. Thanks.

Oh, I don't know that gadget. You might have an easier time emailing the pics to your PC, if that's an option for you. You've done it though. GW upload facility can do 1 pic per post, so if you have more than one, it's not your fault or your gadget that you couldn't get 2 at the same time. When I need to put 2 pics, I just post twice. If you get in the habit of putting multiple pics in posts, you can use a 3rd party photo-hosting site to do that.

its fall ... the leaves will fall off.. along with whatever is attacking the leaves... nothing to do there ... but clean them up afterwards ... EVERYTHING looks like this in fall ... these would be great plants for you to learn about pruning ... there is some historically bad pruning ... maybe for the fence install ... the further one.. you could probably cut to about 3 inches.. and with no insult to the root mass it will be 4 feet tall again by next summer ... and then in the next few years ... having either succeeded or failed.. then you can get rid of them ... or not ... they are what we call.. a short lived tree ... in tree years.. that mean about 20 years max.. if you are lucky.. and the garden gods favor it ... getting rid of it.. is not that big a deal ... see you in the shrub or tree forum.. if you are interested in gardening.. and learning to prune... ken ps: the link shows.. what well pruned specimens should look like ... in a variety of forms .... Here is a link that might be useful: link

I think you may just have got it. If not, a very, very close relative. I will be back there in a couple of weeks, or so, to check things out. I'll post what it looks like then. Thank you.