Spicebush are fresh off the bush for you to plant at once and Cimicifuga are dry and ready to plant now or store awhile. Both of these germinate best if planted fresh. I'd like seeds of native plants for these, especially native Plum thicket, Ginseng, Bloodroot, False Solomon's Seal (Smilacena racemosa), crabapple, or Verbascum. Barb

For the runner bean, it would be cheaper to buy them at Lowes in the spring - postage for these will be well over the dollar buying the seeds locally would cost, plus you'd have the cost of a padded envelope.

If you happen to still have any, please send me an email mendi.earthling@gmail.com Thanks Mendi

Wow, this is an 11 year old thread, and now in 2021, I still find it difficult to track down clear description and photos of the various American Mountain Bugbane. I too in the north-east have seen similar to the poster's description in a small handfull of local garden landscapes. What baffles me is no mention of ‣ the intensely enchanting sweet vanilla pefume that wafts on the wind from this wonderful bottle-brush-like cluster of flowers! BTW that enticing smell, along with the shape, is why I first thought the nik-name "fairy candles" was attributed-- but my rough research seems to state that nik-name is for it's stinkier cousin black cohash..? Well, I prefer to call the sweeter bugbane "fairy candles" as well, and so I will. Now to find out if this magical late season blooming delight can be found at a local plant nursery. If it is rare, could be tough. Or if that fails, perhaps I'll be bold and knock on the door of someone in town who has it in their garden to ask either where they got or if willing to sell cuttings..?