Some I wrote down last year as recommendations were Sun Power, Pidemont Gold and Daybreak. It was a discussion about yellows. But that's what I intend to order. I don't have those yet, though. Of course I'm in zone 8, but my first year Key West fried in morning sun. I'll move it to more shade this year. It grew well, though and made pods it's first year, which makes me look. It was the first Olga I knowingly bought. I already had Brother Stephan and Niagara Falls, but did not know they were Olgas when I acquired them. I'm hopeful that Key West will do well for me, too. bk

Wow! Thank you so much for your replies and all the great information. I'm trying to go through it all and compare to what I was thinking about doing. We don't have a tractor or high tunnels but those are things I am trying to get as soon as possible. It seems that everyone has a bit different definition of what a bed is. I live on 5 acres and right now we have one plot that is 100x75' (the length of our mainline is 100') and a second one that is 70x60'. We will be expanding next year to have a third 50x100' plot and extending the current ones to 100x100' and 70x100. I really like the idea of permanent beds because right now we till the entire plot and then I have to create and map out the beds every season which takes a lot of time and effort. I would really like to just till the bed and have a more permanent path in between. I think I may go with either 30" or 36" for bed size. I am just trying to maximize space efficiency in the beds. I agree the diamond pattern is the best way to fit the most plants in. Jay and brookw, what size bed do you use? Your row spacing sounds similar to what I was thinking. For those of you who have a permanent or standard bed, what do you do about things like trellised tomatoes, peas and crops like potatoes that are planted in a single row? That's why I was thinking of having several different bed sizes. As for starting crops in the spring I was planning to start brassicas, bulb onions, green onions, peas, carrots and beets in mid-April. Is that too soon? Should I use row covers? My last frost date is 5/15 and the first market is June 15th. This past year I didn't have anything to sell at the first few markets except plant starts because I planted everything too late and then critters ate my peas. I would like to have produce at the first market next year. (I don't grow greens except a small amount of spinach and kale because there is a greens specialist at the market and the bunnies always eat them all before they get to harvestable size.) Thank you all for the succession planting information. Carrots sold like crazy this year so I want to plant a ton more of them. I never thought to succession plant the cucurbits. Thank you for the chart, little_minnie! I will have to compare it to the notes I have for my plants. I'll be back with more questions and thoughts. Thank you again for giving me so much to think about.

C'mon guys, you don't pick a gardener's brain... You rake it!!! I was going to say "hoe" but some people might have taken it wrong, though hostas are better hoed than raked! ;-) Thanks for all the suggestions, I found a local hosta and daylily specialist and he didn't have many of these. He did have DreamWeaver, but it reminded me of Great Expections, a hosta I killed 3 times despite pampering. I bought 5x "Summer Music" and I hope and pray it will resist sun and slugs, I'm not so sure. But it did have the look I wanted. Dark green and white, the perfect neighbour to my Sum and Substance and miniature blue spruce. Here is a link that might be useful: Summer Music at HL

Christy, Sent you an email. Let me know if you dont get it