>I don't intend to split hairs by offering differing opinions, but the photos of the first two laurels look like every other 'Otto Luyken' I've ever seen, so not at all sure what the confusion might be>Dwarf English laurel, Prunus laurocerasus, probably 'Otto Luyken'>As to the ceanothus, I am also confused as to why one considers 'Victoria' to be the same or synonymous with 'Skylark'. The mature size of 'Victoria' would seem to negate that - 'Skylark' is typically considered a compact ceanothus, achieving a height of about 5' (one source states 3'x3') and about as wide or slightly wider. Victoria easily reaches double that size. And I've yet to locate a resource that confirms 'Victoria' is a hybrid - most sources and vendors are pretty unanimous in it being a cultivar of thrysiflorus. 'Skylark' may very well be a hybrid - its origins are a little sketchy - but I seriously doubt the two are the same plantThe origin of 'Skylark' remains ambiguous. Introduced by Mitch [sic] Nursery of Aurora, Oregon, the cultivar filtered through West Coast nursery channels until it was finally named by M. Nevin Smith with 'a desire to distinguish it from others in the trade' (Smith 1979). Parentage is thought to be Ceanothus thyrsiflorus var. thyrsiflorus x C. velutinus, which is consistent with the broad physical characteristics of the plant. It is believed by many to be the same plant grown in the nursery trade as C. thyrsiflorus 'Victoria'. Dense and compact, 'Skylark' has a dome-shaped form to 4 feet tall and 6 feet wide... --Fross/Wilken, Ceanothus (Timber Press) The dimensions given are of course not cast in stone or frozen in time, especially for such fast-growing shrubs. 4' x 6' would approximate a plant acquired as 'Victoria' I grew for a few years on Camano Island fairly well. Another specimen from the same source, planted in a different part of the property has not yet grown so broadly relative to its height. Two one gallon plants purchased from Emery's Garden as 'Skylark' and 'Victoria' were completely interchangeable at that stage of development. Since then growth on the hot sandy planting site has been slow, and one of them may have been lost beneath an overwhelming growth of weeds. >And having grown and sold C. obtusa 'Blue Feathers' for years, I have to say the shrub in question looks nothing like any other 'Blue Feather's I've seenAs far as can be seen in the picture it looks quite like another specimen I just planted.

Pam, I'm in agreement with Paul on the first pic,Ae.lueddemanniana. On the 2nd plant,I'm going with Q.arvensis cv.'Rose' as a strong possibility,mostly because of the distinct banding on the leaves. Q.testudo's inflr. is similar,but I think the leaves are a plain green,no banding,on the testudo species. Other opinions are always welcome. Bob

I think lobelia though I don't know the cultivar. The term periwinkle is just a (misleading) description of the color blue as it is not a periwinkle. And snapdragons if not deadheaded will self seed in the following spring.

Here's a pic of two smaller trees - Both have actually breached my chain link fence. As you can see neither of these two have flowers on them. Due to too much shade or age of tree? Bigger of two that is blocking the gate from opening into the woods. 2nd and smallest coming through fence (hard to tell with honeysuckle, Virginia creeper and morning glory vines all over)