The leaf cuttings in the plastic cups looks like a variegated form of Hoya carnosa. The new growth looks like a root.

Is there any part of the branch attatched to the leaf cuttings or are they just leaves sitting there? As far as I know it's very difficult to get leaf cuttings to produce new growth. Usually they just sit there and the years pass and nothing happens.

The vine photos look like a regular Hoya carnosa to me.

Hi Maggie,

Thanks for the ID. I'm glad I asked becauese all of the leaves look different to me...some look variegated, some are round and "wavy" and some are thin and spear like, and some are dark and some are light, so I thought I had an assortment. Just goes to show you what an untrained eye will see or hope to see!
I pulled up the leaves this morning to check...some look as though the roots are growing straight from the petiole and others have a small "lump" at the ends which looks like it could either be a piece of stem or perhaps a bulge created by all the root growth...it's really hard to tell with all the dirt in the way...I did try to wipe as much off as I could. There are definatel no large portions of stem. I used all of the batteries in my camera yesterday, but I'm going to get more today and I'll rinse the leaves and roots off and take a few more photos...if anyone thinks that might help. I'd just keep growing them forever, just to find out, if I could...but I really don't have the space to do that unless something will come of it :) More photos soon! Thanks again, Maggie!

Maria

They could be at least two forms of carnosa, unless all leaves came from the same plant. Some of the leaves (the ones with no yellow) look plain carnosa. But variegated carnosas can have those leaves too so if they are from the same plant they are one and the same.

Hopefully the lump on some leaves are parts of the stem. That makes int more hopefull get get a full plant. Leaves will root just like any other cutting, but they rarely produce new growth.

Ok...I washed off all of the roots...as best I could without damaging them and I took two photos of each, the first a "panoramic" shot and the second of each is a close-up of the roots and how much, if any, stem is attached. Special notes: took 3 photos of "leaf #7" because the first shot of the roots was an accidental snap. And "leaf #4" is the leaf that I tought had new growth...and you can see why in the shots. I wish is was new growth!

I will ask the person who sent them to me if she knows, too, as I was planning to contact her soon anyhow as I'll be sending her some promised (still growing) cuttings soon, and I was going to send her some pictures of the progress of those plants.

Hopefully any answers to these questions can help other "newbies" in the future who are trying to figure out the same thing. They can be directed to this thread...I'll keep the photos up for them :)I looked for specific photos of hoyas rooting online, but to no avail. Ok, here are the links to those photos:

LEAF #1:
http://www.mariamccarthy.com/leaf1photo1.jpg
http://www.mariamccarthy.com/leaf1photo2.jpg

LEAF #2:
http://www.mariamccarthy.com/leaf2photo1.jpg
http://www.mariamccarthy.com/leaf2photo2.jpg

LEAF #3:
http://www.mariamccarthy.com/leaf3photo1.jpg
http://www.mariamccarthy.com/leaf3photo2.jpg

LEAF #4: (also showing what I THOUGHT was new growth)
http://www.mariamccarthy.com/leaf4photo1.jpg
http://www.mariamccarthy.com/leaf4photo2.jpg

LEAF #5:
http://www.mariamccarthy.com/leaf5photo1.jpg
http://www.mariamccarthy.com/leaf5photo2.jpg

LEAF #6:
http://www.mariamccarthy.com/leaf6photo1.jpg
http://www.mariamccarthy.com/leaf6photo2.jpg

LEAF #7: (the leaf7photo2 is barely worth looking at)
http://www.mariamccarthy.com/leaf7photo1.jpg
http://www.mariamccarthy.com/leaf7photo2.jpg
http://www.mariamccarthy.com/leaf7photo3.jpg

LEAF #8:
http://www.mariamccarthy.com/leaf8photo1.jpg
http://www.mariamccarthy.com/leaf8photo2.jpg

Thanks!
Maria

Here is a link that might be useful: In the future, all of these pictures will be located here for easier viewing. This link won't work today...have to make a page!

All leaves are very well rooted but I'm afraid can't see anything that resembles new growth. Leaf#1 has something that might be part of a stem (on the left side of photo#2 there is something sticking out that doesn't look like a root) but it's not clear enough to say for sure.

I was planning to add photos of rooting hoyas on my website but I didn't get around to it yet. I have some cuttings in my table green house and some in water so I was thinking of taking photos to show the difference. I have tips and info on rooting and photos of cuttings, but not the roots and stems.

Also ask the person you got the leaves from if they all came from the same plant. I'm just a bit curious to why she sent you leaves and not cuttings with nodes. Your chanses of getting plants are unfortunatley rather slim, but don't throw away the leaves without trying.

Ok, I think I'll hold on to the leaves for a bit then. I actually built that page on my site with the photos (I linked to it above in my last post) but the page took a good 30 seconds to load, and then time to scroll down, so I compressed all of the photos to less than 1/4 their original sizes but it still took a while to load, so I just finally gave in and signed up for a webshots account. All 8 leaves are loaded and I'll provide the link below for anyone else who might want to view them without copying and pasting, as you had to before. I didn't want to use webshots because I pay for hosting at my site, so I try to use it as much as I can...but I just had to give in.

The woman who sent them to me knew that I'd lost many plants last year, and she was going to be throwing everything away, so she asked me if I wanted her extra cuttings. She sent me maybe 75 various cactus and succulent cuttings...so I'm not complaining. I only paid postage :) I had to give some away to my neighbor and friends, because I didn't have enough room for them all... I will ask her if she remembers if pieces of stem were attached. I feel bad bothering anyone who was so generous, but I should be returning the favor once the weather warms up and I've been meaning to update her...

Thanks again, Maggie. I hope this helps anyone who may be planning to root just leaf-cuttings in the future...

Here is a link that might be useful: Hoya Leaves at Webshots

So maybe the lady didn't know that Hoyas are not good subjects to leaf rooting as many other plants are. I did try it myself when I was younger. I took leaves from my mothers gigantic Hoya carnosa and planted but nothing ever happened. They rooted an sat nicely in the pot. But no growth ever came from them.

The link to your webshots album doesn't work. It's the link to your adminpage and one has to be logged in. If you send your username there I can look up the public link to your account.

Oops, sorry about that. Here is the correct link...

Here is a link that might be useful: Hoya cuttings

That one worked just fine :)

Hi Maria-

If I had to guess, I'd say it is correct that all the leaves you have shown come from Hoya Carnosa. But just to get a little more specific, leaf #1 appears to be Carnosa 'Krimson Princess', leaves #4, 6, and 8 appear to be Carnosa 'Krimson Queen', and #2, 3, 5, 7 appear to be regular Carnosa.

I suspect that with leaves #4, 6, and 8 the person was given/sold the plants with 3 different names due to the variance in leaf shape and size that this plant produces. I have 3 myself--one with completely heart shaped leaves, one with more elongated leaves, and one with very round leaves, however they are all the same Hoya.

Hi Daisy,

Thanks so much for taking the time to do that! It really helps to put that small mystery to bed and it will help me to grow them, if they ever do grow :) It's good to know!

Maria

To add to what Daisy said: sometimes Carnosa 'KQ' produces those round shaped leaves. Good luck on your leaves!

My Hoya carnosa var. variegata has such variety in it's foliage that the thought crossed my mind that all leaves could originate from the same plant. If my variegated carnosa is a Krimson Princess or Queen I have no idea. I've kept the name var. variegata as that was what I was told it was. Some leaves look just like the regular carsnosa.

Hey Daisy Me! Hope you're having a good winter! Almost hyacinth time, here, so've been meaning to send pics when they bloom. :))

You said exactly what I was thinking, though do you think there's a chance #2 might look a tad pubicalyx-ish and #7 might just possibly be a lacunosa? Hard to say for sure, but in her very first picture of all of them together, the size variation is easier to see. Also, I do have a pubicalyx with little to no silvering on some of the leaves like her #2. Hard to tell much from one leaf, but am thinking those might be possibilities!

Good luck to you, Maria, and Daisy, hope you're having a good indoor-growing season!! 'Mare

I hope you're right, Mare! When I was trying to figure it out the other day, I was hoping to have both publicalyx and lacunasa, because I know the vine has to be a carnosa....so I was hoping for a selection of blooms. And both of those particular hoyas are gorgeous.

Ok, so I guess this will be my "experiment." I've just decided to keep all of the leaves for at least 3 years and if nothing happens by then I decide there's no hope. I figure by then the roots will have more than filled up each one of the cups and that there will be only one way to go, and that's up...so if they don't sprout by then I'll give up. I'll keep posting updates to that webshots page for anyone who's interested... Hopefully I'll be able to keep track of what's going on with the roots through the cups...they're slightly opaque.

We'll see who was right, start hedging your bets!
Maria

My hoya Carnosa sat for several years and did very little, other than add a few new leaves. I had a Pothos that needed a trim, so decided to add the new cuttings to my hoya basket. A little fertilizer and a few months later, the pothos spilled over the top, and my hoya got the message. Two years later, the pothos has one vine close to twenty feet long, and the hoya vines have taken over the blinds near the pot. Several vines are four or five feet in length. While it hasn't bloomed, it has certainly flourished.

So maybe your dormant plant just needs a playmate!

Hi all, I'm new to this forum. I agree the leaves are all Carnosa with the varigated ones Krimson Princess or Krimson Queen, I have all three, the "Queen" has dark green inner and light green outer color while the "princess" has light green inner and dark green outer color. I have already learned much from all of you and Thanks. I have rooted several vines that grew and several leaves that just sat there.

-Leon

just wondering how all those leaves are doing...

My first carnosa was rooted from a leaf I took from the mother plant. I planted about four leaves and one grew (threw the others out before I'd finished the experiment!). It's now a very healthy plant that's trying to take over the lounge and flowered for the first time after 8 years...

I tried this again with Compacta last year. I only got one leaf and it rooted, but then it died :(. But I won another one on Ebay!! :)

You won a LEAF on ebay? How much? I probably throw about 10 a day in the compost pile - maybe I should go into the leaf business.

I HATE that there are folks despicable enough to be selling Hoya leaves on EBay. Most folks who grow Hoyas, know that the likelihood of growing a Hoya leaf into a new plant is negligible. Yes, the leaf will root, but it's quite unusual that it will actually grow into a new plant (most of us have rooted leaves, I know I have; my only remaining one is a single leaf of H obscura in a tiny cup, which has been there at least 2 yrs.)

Talk abt taking advantage of people's ignorance (lack of knowledge)!!!! GRRRRRRRRRRR

OK, I didn't quite make myself clear here.... I meant that I originally pinched a leaf off a plant, it rooted but then it started to die. About the same time I saw a PLANT of compacta online, and won it. It's a very healthy 20-leaf plant and growing well!

oh. nevermind.