where is the the best place to start a FARM ?
farmfreedom
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Are the start up costs too high to start a farm nowadays?
Comments (6)At your age and level of experience, I'd look for an internship to see what the life was actually like. It's too easy to romanticize about the bucolic life. There's a reason farming is declining as a profession. Nonetheless, we started a farm 8 years ago and aren't looking back. We also didn't quit our day jobs. We bought 22 acres of wilderness 8 years ago and have turned 6 acres of it into a fruit and vegetable farm. Land prices are unreal right now, but tax on farmland is still very cheap. Originally, mine were $12 a year. Now, they're a whopping $20/year. On the land, equipment, pond, trees, berries, roots, etc., we've easily spent over $150,000. All is paid for but with a lot of sacrifice. Fuel is a huge expense. We also need a building, greenhouse, and irrigation system which may run around $70,000. We have taken a loss every year we've been in business. Some day though, there should be some profit. Time is the biggest investment as it takes certain crops years to mature--fruit trees, berries, asparagus, etc. Then there are structures like trellises, deer and other crittter protection, etc. The time I spend on the farm is unreal. I have left the state once since buying it. From April to the middle of Sept, there were 3 days I did not work on the farm. Then there are weather, disease, insects, and predation to deal with. One bad storm can wipe ten years of work away. Good luck staying organic if you live anywhere other than the west coast. Marketing your product is a whole other realm as demand and prices fluctuate and tastes and attitudes change. Still, I don't regret anything I've done and look forward to doing it till I can't do it any longer....See MoreInterested in farming.... where should I start?
Comments (11)Ask around, offer to help at the CSA, with anyone with a large garden - be a little leery of the old-timers' advice - some of it is spot on for local conditions, some is just plain wrong, and some has been disproven in recent years. Try helping at local nurseries - you will get plant and small business info at the same time - DON'T ask questions at the busiest times, but many owners/managers are happy to share their knowledge. Ask the local healthfood store where the local growers/suppliers are, ask if they ned any help - it CAN mean being out in the hot sun on a 95 degree day! Check out your community college for growers classes, organic or otherwise, take the classes and talk to people. Be careful of the ones that talk well, but don't do, and the ones who boast - they may just be happy and surprised at how well they are doing, and may be talking up a LOT more than they can produce. The ones who look the grungiest may be the most successful ones. Cultivate a healthy degree of scepticism, along with an open mind and willingness to try almost anything once. You don't need a degree, but you DO need some experience in small business practices - for the IRS if for no other reason. Take classes, talk to people about what they do - even if they are producing widgets - the practices, inputs, etc. will be the same at the bottom, even if the names or exact procedures are different. As said above, you probably won't get rich, but you may have a rich life!! Be willing to start small, work hard, maybe have a day job to support you while the "real" business grows, and above all - WORK HARD! You can begin on a small level, by producing veggies or flowers from your parent's back yard - with permission, it goes without saying. See if the managers at tlhe healthfood store will share what they NEED more of, and the pricing - then break it down and see if the return is worth it - some things are expensive to grow. Even if you only break even, if you don't have to go out and buy a lot of equipment - you are learning. Go to the local farmer's market, and see what is there, what is selling, and what is selling out early. You might be able to get a learner's job, no money to speak of, but lots of experience! It's a bit late for this year, but you could see what the requirements are, and try for next year. It is farming, just on a small scale. Again with permission, and if local zoning allows, try for raising eggs or meat chickens - the latter you will have to process to sell, so see what the market will bear, and what local health regs are. If you have access to enough land, maybe try for milking goats, and maybe, if there is an Hispanic or ethnic community nearby, raising kids to sell for meat. BEFORE YOU DO ANY OF THESE, READ!!! If you have little animal experience, read, and then get hand's on experience with someone to mentor you and look over your shoulder - they aren't as easy as a bicycle! You can do any and all of these, just start small..., and be careful....See Morewhere is the best place to vegetable garden?
Comments (20)Third vote for Oklahoma. I live in the northeast corner of the State and near a beautiful lake. Housing is just about any price you want to pay ranging from lake front gated communities to very modest. I was a military wife so I have lived in a lot of different places and this is my favorite. Our weather is a bit unsettling since we have a lot of tornado warnings in Oklahoma, but an excellent early warning system. The northeast part of the State is very wet especially in the spring. We are less than five months into the year and have received over 20 inches. The frost free season is said to be early April to about Halloween, but there are many nice days before and after those dates that allow you to grow the hardy crops, or more, if you add a little protection. I normally have salad greens until mid December if I remember to throw a cover on them on really cold nights. I stop gardening in December, and begin transplants inside in late February. I just use a light set-up and don't have a greenhouse (yet). I live about 45 minutes from Joplin MO, and a lot of my shopping is done there. I live near a small resort town but we have a WM Supercenter and Lowes, fast food places, and numerous small businesses. As I am typing, the window is open and at midnight it is 73 degrees. From the garden we have had radishes, green onions, sugar snap peas, various lettuces and salad greens, a few stawberries from a new bed, and in future years should have asparagus and several berries. Almost all of my summer crops are in the ground, except those that will follow the broccoli and onion harvests. The broccoli is just beginning to head and the onions are just bulbing. I have not had to water in-ground plants at all except for new plantings in raised beds, and that has only been a couple of times. Summers are hot and I will probably water a few times in the hottest part of summer. I have been trying to get 'tracydr' above to consider the NE corner, but so far she seems to be favoring the horse country and the college towns. LOL I can't say much more about that tho, since my youngest son graduated from there and my husband did his Masters there. Tracy, I understand what your husband is doing as I have a son just completing a PHD in Texas. I wondered if he would ever make it through high school, so who knew? LOL...See MoreWhere's the best place to order Fuji Apple Tree?
Comments (3)Thank you both for that information. I just went to Stark Bros. website. They say Fuji must be cross-polinated with a different variety and recommended Gala, Braeburn, Golden Delish and a few others. ONly problem was, they're sold out of all the trees they recommended for cross-polination, including the golden delish, but they did have Fuji in stock. So, I went ahead and ordered one Fuji semi-dwarf. They said they will ship in a couple days so I can get it right into the ground and baby it through summer. Then next spring, when Atwood's and Lowe's have tons and tons of golden delish, I'll buy a new one of those. If the Fuji gets to be too much of a pain in the neck to take care of, I guess I could always replace it with another Delicious apple. I hope, what with them being in the front yard, that they will be far enough from cedar but at any time in the future one of my neighbors can decide to landscape with cedar in their front yards and then that'll mess me up. We'll see! We had a hard rain this morning. It overflowed my half-empty mushroom-shaped water tank AND the empty tank I just bought (on sale at Atwood's, and shaped like a barrel on it's side). We just got it hooked up to the downspout on the other side of the house. I'm amazed how much water comes down those downspouts!...See Morefarmfreedom
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