English Ivy vs. Vinca Minor -- Opinions Wanted
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Comments (12)Sorry for the late follow up...been out of town... Regarding the poor conditions I was just repeating what I read about where the sedum will grow. The area where I've planted the roses is not in poor soil (although I realize that area looks pretty poor right now with the beautiful black gutter pipe and the dead leaves about!). They are doing quite well and regaining leaves and buds. The area on the other side of the yew (not pictured-but would have probably been helpful) gets a lot of heat (full hot sun, right next to sidewalk and driveway) and is somewhat parched soil and with no mulch to cover it, I consider that a rough area for planting and perhaps the sedum, since it tolerates poor conditions, might do ok here as well as be fine for the rest of the area toward the back where it's full sun but there is more moisture and a bit of shade. Another question about the sedum-if it gets stepped on or driven over by a tricycle will it recover or look pretty bad? Initially I had thought of the periwinkle because it will tolerate 'light' foot traffic and not be terribly ruined if someone happens to traipse over it....See MoreReplacement for English Ivy
Comments (7)I have been pleased with Robb's Spurge (might be Almond Spurge, latin is euphorbia robbia or euphorbia amygdaloides) We pulled out lots and lots of English Ivy the previous owner had left for years and years, and tried several ground cover gifts from different gardening neighbors. Here's our experience in Northern Virginia, Zone 7, almost full shade, dry shade: Pachysandra the winner - evergreen, looks good, not as invasive as the bad guys Vinca Minor and 2 kinds of lamium. Robb's Spurge (might be Almond Spurge) - looks good, evergreen, stays lower if you go to the trouble of cutting off the chartreuse shoots/blooms. Also a winner, spreads but easy to move/pull the little ones that start where you don't want them. Sweet Woodruff - looks great, not evergreen, nice for variety but doesn't spread or fill in too well in really dry shade. Very nice delicate white flowers in spring. Lamium - looks good the first year, spreads too quickly, takes over any other groundcover around it. OK if you want low maintenance and don't care that it spreads really quickly. Not evergreen. Strawberry Begonia - looks great and is nice for variety, although if doesn't spread well like the euphorbia. From reading the Web about it, it would do better if this area wasn't such dry shade. The foliage looks great and I recommend trying this if replacing English Ivy. Not evergreen but comes back in spring. Here's a nice photo and another gardener's experience with it. http://home.att.net/~larvalbugrex/begonias.html Vinca minor - aka periwinkle. Thank goodness this and lamium are easier to pull out than English Ivy. It's ok if you want no maintenance and don't care about how invasive it is. Truly it got boring looking, probably because I got interested in all these others we tried and preferred their look to this. The flowers (periwinkle color) look good but in deep shade you don't get many. Here is a link that might be useful: Web entry about euphorbia or spurge...See Moreenglish ivy Winterkill
Comments (3)there are five choices that come to mind that would be better than ivy... cleaning up the dump/campsite would be the first choice, but I understand that might be too much trouble to remove the debris, rototill the compacted soil, and sow it with something pretty. but vinca minor, goutweed, Yellow archangel (false lamium) gooseneck loosestrife, virginia creeper, or poison ivy would be more attractive alternatives that would do less damage to the local environment....See MoreKill the Ivy! Kill the Ivy! Help me Kill The Ivy!
Comments (15)I would also assume that it is legal in PA, but you can always check with your cooperative extension and see what they say. You mentioned that your slope is southfacing, so I assume that it gets sun. That should make it easier than a shady site to get something to grow. I am probably not the best expert, but what about forsythia bushes? The one I have in my backyard is prolific without being uncontrollable and I think would be deeply rooted enough to help stabilize the slope. Also I would think that they would be fairly inexpensive and common at the big box stores so that you could get a bunch in without breaking the bank. My other thought was some low growing evergreen bushes. I have some on my sunny slope and they are doing quite well. For the shaded portion of my slope I am looking at planting some hydrangeas (once I get the ivy out) and maybe some ferns. Litrope would also be a good choice and is sold at the box stores. I would consider digging it up now while it is not completely established and not out of control. Like a misplaced tree, it will just get to be a bigger proble to solve later if it is left to flourish now. Plus I would expect to find it establishing other places in your yard (far from where it is planted) and becoming a problem in many spots. Last, I know that in my english ivy is where the poison ivy starts. I only have poison ivy where the English Ivy is and that is a bigger problem! Here is a link that might be useful: MD Suggestions for Groundcovers...See Morecreatrix
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